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rbmartin Mon May 14, 2012 07:05am

6.2.2 C - taking too much time
 
Fed game yesterday. I am HP. Pitcher is struggling to throw strikes. Starts taking FOREVER to pitch the ball. After saying a couple times, "hey guys, lets speed things up a bit" pitcher is still slow. I start visually counting (like a basketball ref) and the pitcher takes the hint and starts working faster.

My question is, if I had needed to issue a 1 ball penalty for taking more than 20 seconds to deliver the ball, what is the proper procedure to do this? Do you call time (kinda defeats the purpose of trying to speed up the game)? Do you let the pitcher remain on the rubber? Exactly how do I do this should I ever have cause to do it?

TwoBits Mon May 14, 2012 09:39am

Calling time seems like a reasonable thing to do as you will likely confuse the pitcher, batter, catcher, coaches, scorekeeper, etc., if you just yell out "Ball!" without some sort of explanation.

mbyron Mon May 14, 2012 09:39am

"Time, that's a ball to the batter, the count is now 3-1, play."

RadioBlue Mon May 14, 2012 12:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbmartin (Post 841722)
kinda defeats the purpose of trying to speed up the game

Only slows it down once. You'll make up that time within 10 pitches. :cool: ;)

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon May 14, 2012 01:41pm

I umpire FP softball too, and I remember one time in a USSSA Girls' 16U tournament game, the team finished its turn and bat and its HC kept its players in a huddle in front of its dugout for approximately 55 seconds. The team took the field and F1 toed the Pitching Plate; I gave her the Stop Sign, said Batter Up, and then said Play Ball. The coach started to complain about his pitcher not getting any warm up pitches and I told him why she wasn't getting any. Both teams hustled onto the field after their bats the rest of the game.

MTD, Sr.

waltjp Mon May 14, 2012 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 841798)
I umpire FP softball too, and I remember one time in a USSSA Girls' 16U tournament game, the team finished its turn and bat and its HC kept its players in a huddle in front of its dugout for approximately 55 seconds. The team took the field and F1 toed the Pitching Plate; I gave her the Stop Sign, said Batter Up, and then said Play Ball. The coach started to complain about his pitcher not getting any warm up pitches and I told him why she wasn't getting any. Both teams hustled onto the field after their bats the rest of the game.

MTD, Sr.

I've never refused any warm up pitches but have told to catcher to throw it down after 1 or 2. The beauty of this is that it only happens once in a game.

DG Mon May 14, 2012 10:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbmartin (Post 841722)
Fed game yesterday. I am HP. Pitcher is struggling to throw strikes. Starts taking FOREVER to pitch the ball. After saying a couple times, "hey guys, lets speed things up a bit" pitcher is still slow. I start visually counting (like a basketball ref) and the pitcher takes the hint and starts working faster.

My question is, if I had needed to issue a 1 ball penalty for taking more than 20 seconds to deliver the ball, what is the proper procedure to do this? Do you call time (kinda defeats the purpose of trying to speed up the game)? Do you let the pitcher remain on the rubber? Exactly how do I do this should I ever have cause to do it?

Call time, get your brush out and while cleaning the plate tell the catcher he needs to visit his pitcher and tell him to speed up delivery between pitches, significantly. I have never seen this rule applied, by the way, or done it myself, as preventive umpiring is better. Do it as soon as you notice, first inning.

If you call a ball you can bet money the offended manager will soon be complaining that opposing batters are stepping out of the box and a ball should be called.

thumpferee Mon May 14, 2012 11:55pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 841866)
Call time, get your brush out and while cleaning the plate tell the catcher he needs to visit his pitcher and tell him to speed up delivery between pitches, significantly. I have never seen this rule applied, by the way, or done it myself, as preventive umpiring is better. Do it as soon as you notice, first inning.

If you call a ball you can bet money the offended manager will soon be complaining that opposing batters are stepping out of the box and a ball should be called.

Agree!

Forest Ump Tue May 15, 2012 08:12am

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Originally Posted by rbmartin (Post 841722)
My question is, if I had needed to issue a 1 ball penalty for taking more than 20 seconds to deliver the ball, what is the proper procedure to do this? Do you call time (kinda defeats the purpose of trying to speed up the game)? Do you let the pitcher remain on the rubber? Exactly how do I do this should I ever have cause to do it?

I would call time and then announce, "that is a 20 second violation, ball to the batter". Similar to how you call the 90 second rule violation in college except you don't call time in college.

ozzy6900 Tue May 15, 2012 10:44am

Maybe you should all start wearing a whistle. FoxPro has some nice ones. :D:D


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