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jesmael Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:13pm

I have read the rule and see it talked about on http://www.eteamz.com about the difference of FED vs. OBR. But still looking for confirmation if what is posted at http://www.eteamz.com/baseball/rules...uches%20Plate/ is true becuase I am being told that in a major league game a batter will be called out if his foot touches the plate while hitting the ball.

Bfair Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:51am

Quote:

Originally posted by jesmael

I am being told that in a major league game a batter will be called out if his foot touches the plate while hitting the ball.

Don't always believe everything you are told........


Freix

GarthB Sat Jun 21, 2003 01:33am

<b>becuase I am being told that in a major league game a batter will be called out if his foot touches the plate while hitting the ball. </b>

I have been told that:

The hands are part of the bat.

Home plate is in foul territory.

The government knows what's good for me.

Bill Clinton didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

College coaches know the rules.

Christopher Columbus discovered America

I'm only as old as I feel.

Ford has a better idea.

I'd never be able to fill up a 40 meg hard drive

Teaching was a respected career.

and the Cubs are going to win it all.


What can I tell you? People lie.






PeteBooth Sat Jun 21, 2003 08:42am

<i> Originally posted by jesmael </i>

<b> I have read the rule and see it talked about on http://www.eteamz.com about the difference of FED vs. OBR. But still looking for confirmation if what is posted at http://www.eteamz.com/baseball/rules...uches%20Plate/ is true becuase I am being told that in a major league game a batter will be called out if his foot touches the plate while hitting the ball. </b>

Here's the FED rule

FED rule 7-3-2

A batter shall not

hit the ball Fair / Foul while either foot is touching the ground completely outside the lunes of the batter's box or <b> Touching Home plate </b>

In OBR, the phrase <i> or touching home plate </i> is ommitted.

Now reality. We have had so much rain here in the East that there are no lines defining the batter's box. We are lucky just to get some of the games in.

So what does that mean? we use judgement and since there are no lines defining the box if a player does step on the plate and hits the ball "ring up the out".

Pete Booth

chris s Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:53am

<b> the lunes of the batter's box or </b>
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pete, what is a <i>lune</i>??:D

bluezebra Sat Jun 21, 2003 03:31pm

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Originally posted by chris s
<b> the lunes of the batter's box or </b>
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pete, what is a <i>lune</i>??:D

It's Latin for Moon. If the batter "moons" the umpire(s), he's out and ejected.

Bob

cowbyfan1 Sun Jun 22, 2003 12:45am

Besides, there is only 3 ways to totally tell if a batter is out of the box when he hits the ball, on a bunt, if the pitch is so far outside he has to step out to hit it and if he sets up with his foot out of the box to begin with. Any other time I am to busy watching the pitch to tell if the batter is out of the box.

Brolo Wed Jun 16, 2004 09:55pm

Batter Touches Plate AFTER Hitting - Out??
 
Another very similar question...

What if the batter hits the ball into fair play then, while running to first, touches home plate with his/her foot? Is this an automatic out?

The reason I ask is that a teammate of mine was called out last night for this very reason. I'm a lefty batter so I've never had to cross home plate to get to first and never given this thought, but I really wonder about this call. I've played ball since the day I could walk and have never seen or heard of such a rule.

Anyone have a definitive answer? Maybe we just had a terrible umpire?

Thanks in advance. And by the way...we lost the game by one run. :(

LDUB Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:17pm

Re: Batter Touches Plate AFTER Hitting - Out??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Brolo
Another very similar question...

What if the batter hits the ball into fair play then, while running to first, touches home plate with his/her foot? Is this an automatic out?

The reason I ask is that a teammate of mine was called out last night for this very reason. I'm a lefty batter so I've never had to cross home plate to get to first and never given this thought, but I really wonder about this call. I've played ball since the day I could walk and have never seen or heard of such a rule.

Anyone have a definitive answer? Maybe we just had a terrible umpire?

Thanks in advance. And by the way...we lost the game by one run. :(

He can step on the plate, the call was missed. And that is quite the picture there too.

Brolo Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:49pm

Thanks for clarifying, Luke. If anyone else can agree or disagree with certainty, please do. ;) My league has a 48 hour rule for filing call protests so that leaves me 24 hours to go. Protesting costs $25 and they keep the money if the head office doesn't side with me.

Oh, and the picture. ;) I'm on a motorcycle forum and that's my current bike. Just thought I'd use the same signature picture here. Here are some larger, more current pics. Same bike, just different bodywork.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/terren...s/DSC_1017.jpg

http://individual.utoronto.ca/terren...ti_track/3.jpg

[Edited by Brolo on Jun 17th, 2004 at 12:04 AM]

akalsey Thu Jun 17, 2004 01:38am

Quote:

Originally posted by Brolo
If anyone else can agree or disagree with certainty, please do.
Nothing in any rule book I've seen says you can't touch home on the way to first. The only thing I can think of that is even close is that you can't run the bases in reverse order for the purpose of making a travesty of the game or confusing the defense. Perhaps the ump thought the defense was confused when the batter stepped on home. :)

"What? How'd he get home already? He just hit the ball! What do we do next?"

And if the umpire was watching the play, I don't know how he would have seen a foot hit home anyway.

Rich Thu Jun 17, 2004 02:14am

Quote:

Originally posted by akalsey
Quote:

Originally posted by Brolo
If anyone else can agree or disagree with certainty, please do.
Nothing in any rule book I've seen says you can't touch home on the way to first. The only thing I can think of that is even close is that you can't run the bases in reverse order for the purpose of making a travesty of the game or confusing the defense. Perhaps the ump thought the defense was confused when the batter stepped on home. :)

"What? How'd he get home already? He just hit the ball! What do we do next?"

And if the umpire was watching the play, I don't know how he would have seen a foot hit home anyway.

Next someone's going to tell me that it's an out to carry your bat to first base.

Where does this garbage come from?

--Rich

greymule Thu Jun 17, 2004 08:21am

Long ago, I saw a batter called out for stepping on the plate on his way to 1B after hitting a line drive up the middle.

The manager came out and calmly asked the PU to explain his call, then asked if he would check with the BU. The BU straightened things out, and they left the runner on 1B, which he had never left, apparently in his confidence that such a preposterous call wouldn't stand up.

Then the opposing manager got thrown out for arguing the reversal.

That same ump later called a batter out for being out of the box and hitting the ball. The lines were rubbed out, and the batter's foot was, in the words of this PU, "in front of the plate." But the PU showed the manager the footprint, and it was clearly well in the box—it was simply in front of the line where the plate ends in fair territory. In other words, PU made a call more ridiculous than his earlier "stepped on the plate" call.

They wouldn't reverse this one, and the PU ejected the batter for arguing.

greymule Thu Jun 17, 2004 08:22am

<b>"What? How'd he get home already? He just hit the ball! What do we do next?"</b>

Appeal 1B, 2B, or 3B. He missed them all before he scored.

brian43 Thu Jun 17, 2004 08:45am

Quote:

Originally posted by GarthB
and the Cubs are going to win it all.

What can I tell you? People lie.

thats the truth though


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