Most/Least Clueless Announcers?

[UmpJM]

Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan make my most clueless list.

Joe Morgan and Hawk Harrelson make my excruciatingly boring list.

Steve Stone makes my "most knowledgeable" list.

JM

[TwoBits]

Any chance we will see national telecasts with a former umpire at the disposal of the announcers to explain rules similar to what FOX did during this past NFL season?

[MD Longhorn]

Any list not including McCarver and Morgan is sadly lacking. These two do more by themselves to force umpires to re-teach rules to coaches than all the rest of the broadcasters combined. McC is the only one I have ever hears actually say "The hands are part of the bat." on television. And after being corrected, he said, "Well that's the way I learned it..."

Ugh.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Steve Stone makes my "most knowledgeable" list.

We can put Vin Scully in that club as well. What a legend!

[nopachunts]

I attended a clinic taught by a MLB and a MiLB umpire. We asked the MLB umpire about broadcasters. He replied that Tim McCarver is the only broadcaster not allowed in the umpire dressing rooms. Umpires are encouraged to have the broadcaster visit to build a relationship between the two groups. Surprisingly he spoke well of Joe Morgan except when it came to rule interpretations.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

I attended a clinic taught by a MLB and a MiLB umpire. We asked the MLB umpire about broadcasters. He replied that Tim McCarver is the only broadcaster not allowed in the umpire dressing rooms.

thats funny....

[Richvee]

In YES' defense. Clueless Sterling and Waldman work for WABC radio and not YES. I'm a Yankee fan, but if I'm at work or in the car, I'll listen the Mets because I just can't take Sterling and Waldman. I have the MLB package as well, and two guys that come to mind that will go on and on about any call that goes against their team is Duane Staats and whoever his partner is down in Tampa.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by Richvee

In YES' defense. Clueless Sterling and Waldman work for WABC radio and not YES. I'm a Yankee fan, but if I'm at work or in the car, I'll listen the Mets because I just can't take Sterling and Waldman. I have the MLB package as well, and two guys that come to mind that will go on and on about any call that goes against their team is Duane Staats and whoever his partner is down in Tampa.

Sterling would be better with a different partner, I think - when he was Kay, he was actually pretty good. I keep wishing the Yankees could convince Waldman to 'retire',, and replace her with Kimberly Jones, who i think would be an excellent 'color' person. I also wish YES would have a more stable lineup - even though the 'rotation' is fairly predictable, it still kind of annoying trying to figure out who is going being actually working any particular series.

[JR12]

Everytime Jim Palmer "says tie goes to the runner", I want to pull out my eyeballs with my thumbs!

[Richvee]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Sterling would be better with a different partner, I think - when he was Kay, he was actually pretty good. I keep wishing the Yankees could convince Waldman to 'retire',, and replace her with Kimberly Jones, who i think would be an excellent 'color' person. I also wish YES would have a more stable lineup - even though the 'rotation' is fairly predictable, it still kind of annoying trying to figure out who is going being actually working any particular series.

Agree 100%. Actually enjoyed Sterling/Kaye combo. Love Kimberly Jones. Maybe to pretty for full time radio though

[gpdeppert]

Originally Posted by Richvee

In YES' defense. Clueless Sterling and Waldman work for WABC radio and not YES. I'm a Yankee fan, but if I'm at work or in the car, I'll listen the Mets because I just can't take Sterling and Waldman. I have the MLB package as well, and two guys that come to mind that will go on and on about any call that goes against their team is Duane Staats and whoever his partner is down in Tampa.

Listening to those two clowns makes me long for the days of Frank Messer, Bill White (yes THAT Bill White) and, of course, Phil Rizzuto.

Waldman and Sterling are insufferable. I could understand Rizzuto being a "homer"; in fact I would expect it. He was balanced by Messer and White, but with these two it is COMPLETELY over the top.

[dash_riprock]

A few years ago, the Mets were playing the Red Sox late in the season, and the Yanks and Sox were both contenders for the division/wild card. I don't remember whom the Yanks were playing, but there was break in the action and Suzyn was doing the out-of-town scoreboard. When she got to the Mets/Sox game, she snickered: "Who do you root for?"

She is either:

A) Clueless, or
B) A closet Red Sox fan

[SanDiegoSteve]

Least:
Tim McCarver
Harold Reynolds
Jim Palmer
Mark Grant
Hawk Harrelson

Most:
Vin Scully
Steve Stone
Matt Vasgursian

[CT1]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

Surprisingly he spoke well of Joe Morgan except when it came to rule interpretations.

Not that surprising. I've said for years that young players can learn a lot about how to play the game from listening to Morgan. I'm surprised that he hasn't been tabbed to manage or coach for a MLB team.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

Surprisingly he spoke well of Joe Morgan except when it came to rule interpretations.

Joe knows baseball. Some folks get so hung up on his lack of rule knowledge that they assume he's clueless about the other stuff too.