What do you have?

[PeteBooth]

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Originally Posted by jicecone

There is no black and white method documented for these situations. Asking your partner for information in order to make a decision is acceptable.

Let's stick with the OP

As the runner is trying to get by the catcher the runner holds up his left arm to me it looked liked to duck the tag or avoid getting hit by the ball. The ball is jarred loose and the runner scored.

The ball was jarred loose so there is no question that the runner is safe.

The questions are: Did the runner commit MC or intentionally interfere with a thrown ball. You do not go to your partner for this.


Why! For all practical purposes all the BU sees is the arm come up. From his vantage point he might view it as MC BUT the PU was right there and in his judgement he thought the player was protecting himself. What is there to ask.

I had a similar situation when I was BU. It was one of those light rain drizzle type days. There was a play at the plate where R3 collided with F2 knocking him down. From my vantage point it sure looked like MC. My partner was right there and did not rule MC. After the game I asked him about it. He said when R3 was about to slide he slipped big time and could not control himself and went into F2 which is what he explained to the coach. There was no retaliation becasue F2 KNEW what really happened.

In a nutshell this is not a case where one partner was not sure of a safe / out call. This is about judgement and when you have the dish and the play is right there you do not defer or confer with your partner to determine if someone gets tossed or not.

Pete Booth

[jicecone]

Pete, I am all for sticking to the OP.

"As the runner is trying to get by the catcher the runner holds up his left arm to me it looked liked to duck the tag or avoid getting hit by the ball."

That certainly leads me to believe he wasn't sure why is arm was raised.

Then this is followed up with another post,

"Also the only reason for the very short conference was to ask if he seen an elbow thrown".

Still sounds to me like he wasn't sure.

In your situation the PU clearly saw it better than you and didnt need your help. I agree, I wouldn't have asked for help either. But if he did clearly miss it and as a result you had to clean the mess up later because of what the def player perceived, then you might not have been as congenial to you partner as you were.

Your making the case for PU that CLEARLY sees what happened. I agree.

This OP is about one that didn't.

It may not look pretty afterwards, but there is nothing wrong in admitting you didn't see everything.