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yawetag Tue Oct 25, 2011 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 795819)
Exactly how would one go about compiling a bibliography for ones opinions? (WTF are you talking about!??!)

Your comment wasn't given as opinion, but as fact. I'll give you that TLR has done his fair share of whining, but if you're going to spout some BS about faking an injury and giving this statement as fact of it happening before, feel free to give us proof of it.

In fact, it was Maddon that faked a pitcher injury, and I can't recall any time that TLR has even come close to doing the same.

MD Longhorn Tue Oct 25, 2011 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 795838)
Your comment wasn't given as opinion, but as fact. I'll give you that TLR has done his fair share of whining, but if you're going to spout some BS about faking an injury and giving this statement as fact of it happening before, feel free to give us proof of it.

In fact, it was Maddon that faked a pitcher injury, and I can't recall any time that TLR has even come close to doing the same.

No, I didn't. What I said was, "The TLR we've seen in the past would have chosen that moment to have a conniption fit (or have a coach do it), or fake an injury, or SOMETHING to make sure the pitcher HE wanted was coming in."

My point being ... if TLR is not fabricating this phone nonsense, then he WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING to stall. Reading some after posting this, I've read no less than 3 articles (all in the link above) that call Tony LaRussa the king of stalling (there's your bibliography, I guess). I was NOT saying TLR is a cheat, but rather saying that he would have found a way, whatever that entails.

rbmartin Tue Oct 25, 2011 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 795806)
Everyone not in St. Louis knows LaRussa is a weasel who thinks way too highly of himself.

wea·sel noun \ˈwē-zəl\

1 : any of various small slender active carnivorous mammals (genus Mustela of the family Mustelidae, the weasel family) that are able to prey on animals (as rabbits) larger than themselves, are mostly brown with white or yellowish underparts, and in northern forms turn white in winter — compare ermine

2: a sneaky, untrustworthy, or insincere person : See also Tony LaRussa

zm1283 Tue Oct 25, 2011 05:01pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 795806)
Everyone not in St. Louis knows LaRussa is a weasel who thinks way too highly of himself.

For the record, I can not stand the Cardinals and I am a Cubs fan. With that said, I like LaRussa. Does he over-manage sometimes? Probably. But he wins a lot of games. When I think of turd managers in MLB, he isn't really at the top of the list either.

As for last night, who knows?

zm1283 Tue Oct 25, 2011 05:03pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 795809)
You could say this about any coach or manager at the college level and above.

I wouldn't paint everyone with too broad of a brush. There are really good guys at the college level and above (And high school and above for that matter), and there are some a-holes at all levels that think really highly of themselves. This is no different from any other profession, umpiring included.

JRutledge Tue Oct 25, 2011 05:13pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 795862)
I wouldn't paint everyone with too broad of a brush. There are really good guys at the college level and above (And high school and above for that matter), and there are some a-holes at all levels that think really highly of themselves. This is no different from any other profession, umpiring included.

Thinking highly of yourself does not mean you are an a-hole. It is how you treat people and many coaches do not treat people with a lot of respect especially if they are umpires/officials. Some get it and do not try to get in our way, others treat others with a lot of disrespect.

Peace

Steven Tyler Tue Oct 25, 2011 05:25pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 795800)
He is a master - and is always thinking 15 moves ahead.

Wow. La Genius has so many enemies in baseball, it even isn't funny.

zm1283 Tue Oct 25, 2011 05:57pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 795865)
Thinking highly of yourself does not mean you are an a-hole. It is how you treat people and many coaches do not treat people with a lot of respect especially if they are umpires/officials. Some get it and do not try to get in our way, others treat others with a lot of disrespect.

Peace

Sounds like an a$$hole to me.

DG Fri Oct 28, 2011 05:46pm

Who knows whether pitcher LaRusso wanted would have gotten the out. He could just as easily given up a HR ball. Blaming the loss on the phone is just rediculous. Nothing else happen during the game?

JJ Fri Oct 28, 2011 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 795797)
Yes there is. Miscommuniction happens. Fact of life.

Just ask my wife... :rolleyes:

JJ


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