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MD Longhorn Mon Aug 01, 2011 01:02pm

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Originally Posted by SAWolf (Post 776926)
Ok, I did read it:

7.09 It is interference by a batter or a runner when:
(f) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

This rule references the batted ball but still says the same thing. Willfully and deliberately interferes...

You've umpired a game or two, yes? Surely by now you recognize the difference between a batted ball and a thrown ball by now, yes? (Your previous rule-site was actually the correct one, despite you being told otherwise... the rule you quoted refers to what happens to the BR when "a preceding runner..." interferes.

However, THIS play is not interference.

Larry1953 Mon Aug 01, 2011 01:42pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 776982)
I don't see any butterflies on the field.

Both are equally relevant to this play.

A prior post had referenced the PBUC with the bona fide term used. Does the PBUC pertain to MLB play?

bob jenkins Mon Aug 01, 2011 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by Larry1953 (Post 776996)
A prior post had referenced the PBUC with the bona fide term used. Does the PBUC pertain to MLB play?

No, it doesn't.

umpjim Mon Aug 01, 2011 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 777010)
No, it doesn't.

More than likely the MLBUM which does pertain to MLB might have contained or still does contain that language also. Whether Joe Torre wants that language to be adhered to is a different question.

Freeze the clip at 25 seconds and you will see what is probably a violation of the latter paragraphs of the PBUC verbiage.

In real time, a judgement call.

johnnyg08 Mon Aug 01, 2011 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 776841)
So, why is this illegal? There is no rule against breaking up a double play.

Yeah, I agree with you Matt.

I suppose. Maybe we have two of the three...I think we have "willful," I think we have "deliberate," but I don't think we have "unsportsmanlike"

Maybe it's not under straight OBR.

bob jenkins Mon Aug 01, 2011 06:48pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 777033)
More than likely the MLBUM which does pertain to MLB might have contained or still does contain that language also. Whether Joe Torre wants that language to be adhered to is a different question.

Freeze the clip at 25 seconds and you will see what is probably a violation of the latter paragraphs of the PBUC verbiage.

In real time, a judgement call.

Agreed that MLBUM contains it (iirc), and that it's judgment, and that the judgment might have been "wrong" and that even if MLB says it's wrong we might not know that.

zm1283 Mon Aug 01, 2011 07:26pm

I don't have INT here under pure OBR. Holliday could have reached the bag if his arm wasn't a foot above the ground.

UMP25 Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:48pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 777099)
Agreed that MLBUM contains it (iirc), and that it's judgment, and that the judgment might have been "wrong" and that even if MLB says it's wrong we might not know that.

From what I have heard, Bob, it is MLB's opinion, albeit a quiet one, that a DP interference should, in fact, have been called.


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