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Rich Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by Larry1953 (Post 772049)
Really? Another MLB pitcher was told he had to take a small pin of an American flag off his cap due to distraction. An all-white cap would seem to at least be worthy of further review by MLB.

You're not going to stop, are you?

Rich Ives Tue Jul 12, 2011 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 771918)
What was the obscebity? God Dabbity?

I never took typing. Therefore I sometimes hit the wrong letter. BFD.

Rich Ives Tue Jul 12, 2011 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 772013)
Please, stop! You do not have a clue!

Something's wrong - we agree on an issue.

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 01:14pm

OK, perhaps we could start a lengthy thread to discuss the LL rule interpretation where the pitcher cannot wear a glove with a white logo on the wrist strap. If the minutiae of LL tourney rules are allowed/encouraged to be discussed at length, how is my white hat comment out of line. I simply brought it up the possibility that it might be a factor in having the batter freeze and risk a career ending injury.

Rich Ives Tue Jul 12, 2011 01:53pm

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Originally Posted by Larry1953 (Post 772057)
OK, perhaps we could start a lengthy thread to discuss the LL rule interpretation where the pitcher cannot wear a glove with a white logo on the wrist strap. If the minutiae of LL tourney rules are allowed/encouraged to be discussed at length, how is my white hat comment out of line. I simply brought it up the possibility that it might be a factor in having the batter freeze and risk a career ending injury.

Can't discuss a non-existant interp.

Now in FED - they have (had?) one like that.

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 02:01pm

Rich, I understand there is no specific rule against the Red Sox all white throwback uni, although some come pretty close. I know there are several influential umpires on this site. After watching the replay of Byrd's horrific HBP, I thought it was worthy enough to be a contributing factor and that someone might ask it of the powers that be to lessen the risk of another tragedy. I can't really see where that is out of line for this site.

MrUmpire Tue Jul 12, 2011 03:05pm

Remember that kid?
 
Remember that kid back in school who always had his hand up, even before the teacher finished the question? The kid who felt the need to add addtional information, relevant or not, to every statement made by others?

And, the kid who after even the teacher tired of hearing from, would then seek out classmates, between classes, and regale them with his opinions on subjects no one cared about?

And, the kids, that once exposed to a small bit of information from his parents, friends, magazines, pen-pal...who and what ever...considered it Gospel and decided he had a duty to share it?

Remember that kid?

He grew up to become a troll.

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 03:31pm

MrUmpire, I say this with all respect and honestly - I really appreciate your comment. You are a good judge of character. Hard to change after 58 years. Thank you.

cbfoulds Tue Jul 12, 2011 08:52pm

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Originally Posted by Larry1953 (Post 772069)
Rich, I understand there is no specific rule against the Red Sox all white throwback uni, although some come pretty close. I know there are several influential umpires on this site. After watching the replay of Byrd's horrific HBP, I thought it was worthy enough to be a contributing factor and that someone might ask it of the powers that be to lessen the risk of another tragedy. I can't really see where that is out of line for this site.

I know I'm gonna regret this, and people I respect on this site will curse my name, but I can't resist:

Larry, will you please, in as few words as possible, tell me how in the name of Abner Doubleday the BATTER's uniform [color, design, ANYTHING ABOUT IT] could POSSIBLY "contribute" to his being HBP? Or be "distracting"? Or even be mildly interesting to talk about among umpires?

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 09:19pm

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Originally Posted by cbfoulds (Post 772144)
I know I'm gonna regret this, and people I respect on this site will curse my name, but I can't resist:

Larry, will you please, in as few words as possible, tell me how in the name of Abner Doubleday the BATTER's uniform [color, design, ANYTHING ABOUT IT] could POSSIBLY "contribute" to his being HBP? Or be "distracting"? Or even be mildly interesting to talk about among umpires?

1) my comment concerned the PITCHER'S uniform (Red Sox throwback 1918 all-white including a solid white hat. (You put the emphasis on BATTER, I didn't) - watch the video per my link.
2) I was wrong. Billy Martin argued the point when the Yankees played the ChiSox when they came out with the clam-digger with white undershirt. A Chicago pitcher actually removed his but the league afterwards ruled it was OK.
3) sorry to have wasted time and bandwidth.

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 09:43pm

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CHC@BOS: Byrd is hit in the face by pitch, exits game - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

The link I mentioned in case you didn't see it

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:23pm

Baseball rules corner: regulations prevent pitchers from distracting batters | Baseball Digest | Find Articles at BNET

This article discusses several situations throughout the history of MLB where umpires and the league office made rulings on pitchers having distracting paraphernalia. Protests have actually been lodged about it.

APG Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:38pm

Here's my guess on the situation...the batter didn't get out of the way because...it's not always easy getting out of the way of a 90 mile per hour moving object...especially if he was expecting something else.

Larry1953 Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:51pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 772156)
Here's my guess on the situation...the batter didn't get out of the way because...it's not always easy getting out of the way of a 90 mile per hour moving object...especially if he was expecting something else.

Exactly. And it is made even less easy by trying to pick up the ball out of a six and a half foot tall tampon on the mound.

APG Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:10pm

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Originally Posted by Larry1953 (Post 772158)
Exactly. And it is made even less easy by trying to pick up the ball out of a six and a half foot tall tampon on the mound.

At the risk of entertaining this, as others have made it a point not to, I really doubt that had anything to do with it.


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