Pitcher re-entering the game.
 

This situation happened in a JV game yesterday that MTD, Jr., and I had. I would like rulings using NFHS, NCAA, and MLB/OBR rule sets.


SITUATION: #22/Able (Visitors), starts at F5 in the 7th spot in the batting order. In the bottom of the 5th inning, #22/Able switches position with #10/Baker and becomes the new F1 and takes 8 warm-up pitches. In the top of the 6th inning, #22/Able comes up to bat and gets on base. At this point the V-HC decides to Pinch Run (that's right, Pinch Run, not use a Courtsey Runner for F1) and #14/Charlie comes in to Pinch Run for #22/Able. At the start of the bottom of the 6th inning, #22/Able re-enters the game for #14/Charlie. In our game #22/Able only used 5 warm-up pitches when he re-entered the game but would the rules allowed him to have 8 warm-up pitches when he re-entered the game (keeping in mind that he was still the pitcher of record while #14/Charlie was in the game even though he was no longer in the game)?

MTD, Sr.

NCAA and MLB/OBR he can't re-enter once removed for the PR so it's moot.

The coach is brain dead for not using #14 as a courtesy runner, unless of course #14 was already used as a courtesy runner for the catcher earlier in the game.

I'd give the pitcher 5 pitches. If pressed, I'd use the same reasoning you did, but I'm guessing it wouldn't come to that.

Rich:

The decision never was made by Junior (he was the PU for his "Old Man") because #14 was ready to go after just 5 pitches, but we were discussing the play over lemonade and pizza after the game.

MTD, Sr.

Lemonade? Is that code?

Would the new pitcher, whomever that may be, need to pitch to one batter before Able could re-enter to pitch? And then, wouldn't he be allowed 8 pitches if he wanted them?

Would you make a big deal over three pitches?

In NFHS baseball? There is no new pitcher ever in the game. #14 is a PR and #22 simply re-enters.

Of course not. I wouldn't have to, though because the catcher would throw the fifth one down on his own.

Any pitcher entering (or re-entering) the game - or the position - is entitled to 8 warmup pitches, unless he chooses not to take that many. If a coach switches his pitcher with another position player for one batter and then switches them back, the re-entering pitcher is entitled to 8 warmups, because he's now technically a relief pitcher (even though he may have "started" the game at that position).
Isn't it a great game?

JJ

None of what you wrote is in dispute. No pitcher ever replaced the starter in the original situation.

6-2-2C Excp "When a pitcher is replaced ... the relief pitcher may not use more than eight throws.'

No replacement, 5 throws.