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Spence Tue May 17, 2011 08:49pm

Dropped third strike
 
2 outs. Dropped 3rd strike.

BR starts walking toward the dugout.

How far can he go before he forfeits the right to run to first?

MLB

dash_riprock Tue May 17, 2011 09:04pm

Dirt circle.

UmpJM Tue May 17, 2011 09:05pm

The edge of the dirt circle.

Unless you're playing in Cincinnati, apparently.

JM

umpjim Tue May 17, 2011 09:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spence (Post 759237)
2 outs. Dropped 3rd strike.

BR starts walking toward the dugout.

How far can he go before he forfeits the right to run to first?

MLB

If the catcher starts toward him probably 1 step before he can be called out for a 3 foot violation.

Spence Tue May 17, 2011 09:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 759245)
The edge of the dirt circle.

Unless you're playing in Cincinnati, apparently.

JM

Thus the question.

umpjim Tue May 17, 2011 09:28pm

I got the $ 120 MLB thing and I haven't used it at all. Are you going to make me learn how to use it or will you post a link?

rbmartin Wed May 18, 2011 06:34am

Confusion surrounds Cairo's strikeout in sixth | reds.com: News

Here's the video.

MD Longhorn Wed May 18, 2011 08:12am

Who was PU?

rbmartin Wed May 18, 2011 08:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 759331)
Who was PU?

Umpires: HP: John Hirschbeck. 1B: Laz Diaz. 2B: Scott Barry. 3B: Sam Holbrook.

BretMan Wed May 18, 2011 08:55am

So what ever happened to the new "no catch/safe signal" mechanic on uncaught third strikes? Is it optional? :confused:

Welpe Wed May 18, 2011 09:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 759340)
So what ever happened to the new "no catch/safe signal" mechanic on uncaught third strikes? Is it optional? :confused:

As I had just mentioned yesterday, the Doug Eddings Controversy strikes again (Matt, that would be a good band name).

Wow, what a goat rodeo.

BretMan Wed May 18, 2011 09:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 759342)
...the Doug Eddings Controversy strikes again...

Wasn't that the name of their second album? :rolleyes:

mbyron Wed May 18, 2011 09:17am

Looks as if somebody killed firedougeddings.com.

jdmara Wed May 18, 2011 01:19pm

My favorite is watching the third base coach in the middle of the diamond when the throw goes to second base.

I don't have my rules books with me (for once), What's the parameter for a batter/running be called out in NCAA and NFHS?

-Josh

jdmara Wed May 18, 2011 01:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 759411)
My favorite is watching the third base coach in the middle of the diamond when the throw goes to second base.

I don't have my rules books with me (for once), What's the parameter for a batter/running be called out in NCAA and NFHS?

-Josh

To answer my own question...I went out to my car to get my BRD

NFHS: One a drop third strike with fewer than two out, the batter may try for first until the time of the next pitch or until he "reaches his bench or other dead-ball area"...

NCAA: The batter is out if he does not try for first before he "leaves the dirt area surrounding home plate heading towards his dugout"

-Josh

SanDiegoSteve Wed May 18, 2011 10:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 759346)
Looks as if somebody killed firedougeddings.com.

Those people are absolute whack jobs.

Umpmazza Fri May 20, 2011 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 759246)
If the catcher starts toward him probably 1 step before he can be called out for a 3 foot violation.

what? are you talking about.. 3 foot violation is for when a play is being made at 1st...LOL

MD Longhorn Fri May 20, 2011 09:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 759868)
what? are you talking about.. 3 foot violation is for when a play is being made at 1st...LOL

Yeah... LOL. Love people at laugh at their own posts. Love it more when they are wrong.

The RUNNING LANE violation has to do with a play being made at first. 3-feet has to do with any tag attempt, anywhere on the field.

Umpmazza Fri May 20, 2011 10:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 759875)
Yeah... LOL. Love people at laugh at their own posts. Love it more when they are wrong.

The RUNNING LANE violation has to do with a play being made at first. 3-feet has to do with any tag attempt, anywhere on the field.

yes, and umpjim said he was gonna call the guy out for the 3' lane when the batter was just leaving the dirt circle... that rule 6.05k does not apply at that time..

Don't worry I KNOW im not wrong. ..LOL

bob jenkins Fri May 20, 2011 11:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 759897)
yes, and umpjim said he was gonna call the guy out for the 3' lane

No, he didn't. He said he would call him out for runing out of his baseline by 3' once the catcher started toward him to make a tag. Not 6.05(k) but 7.08(a).

MrUmpire Fri May 20, 2011 11:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 759897)
yes, and umpjim said he was gonna call the guy out for the 3' lane when the batter was just leaving the dirt circle... that rule 6.05k does not apply at that time..

Don't worry I KNOW im not wrong. ..LOL

Really? Try rereadng umpjim's post.

MD Longhorn Fri May 20, 2011 12:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpjim
If the catcher starts toward him probably 1 step before he can be called out for a 3 foot violation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 759897)
yes, and umpjim said he was gonna call the guy out for the 3' lane when the batter was just leaving the dirt circle... that rule 6.05k does not apply at that time..

Don't worry I KNOW im not wrong. ..LOL

If I'm worried about anything it's your reading skills. Where does Jim say "lane"??? He's talking about avoiding a tag. Not the Running Lane (which is not even in existence within 1 step of the plate --- which is where jim was referring to).

SanDiegoSteve Fri May 20, 2011 05:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 759897)
Don't worry I KNOW im not wrong. ..LOL

Usually you are not wrong. This time...you are. LTM*




* - Laughing To Myself

:D

umpjim Fri May 20, 2011 05:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 759902)
No, he didn't. He said he would call him out for runing out of his baseline by 3' once the catcher started toward him to make a tag. Not 6.05(k) but 7.08(a).

I meant what Bob said I meant. Guess I should have been more specific.

Umpmazza Fri May 20, 2011 07:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 759906)
Really? Try rereadng umpjim's post.

your right, i read 3 foot violation , and though he was talking the 3' lane...my fault.

Umpmazza Fri May 20, 2011 07:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 759968)

* - Laughing To Myself

:D

I might have to use this one Steve.


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