Dumb Athletic Directors.

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I will ask again. Why does the AD need to know anything about "why" for this portion of this policy? Is the ejection going to be rescinded if he/she does not like the reason for the ejection or the personal policy of the umpire?
Peace

Jeff,
No, the ejection isn't going to be rescinded. However, the school may choose to add their own punishment, as I pointed out in post #7 of this thread.

As an example, some schools think that a one game suspension is more than enough for a momentary outburst. They may wish to add on if it was the F-bomb followed by "you", or perhaps preceded by "you mother..".

At the time that the AD took the call, he presumably has no way to know if the ejection report will include the detail and color necessary to decide if additional punishment is necessary.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Jeff,
No, the ejection isn't going to be rescinded. However, the school may choose to add their own punishment, as I pointed out in post #7 of this thread.

As an example, some schools think that a one game suspension is more than enough for a momentary outburst. They may wish to add on if it was the F-bomb followed by "you", or perhaps preceded by "you mother..".

Wouldn't that be in the written report? Maybe I missed something back in the early part of this conversation; there is a written report right? Now I am going to assume that the reason there is even a policy to contact the schools is there is not an online or email component to such information like there is in my state where the Special Report is sent to schools and appropriate school administration when we file the report.

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

At the time that the AD took the call, he presumably has no way to know if the ejection report will include the detail and color necessary to decide if additional punishment is necessary.

Again without knowing the overall process of this policy I cannot answer to that or if the AD knew anything. But I would have likely stuck to the written report and not editorialized what is usual or common. If that is not supposed to go in the report, not sure I would have did that with the AD either. I doubt I am alone in that standard because all Mark could have done is made the situation worse by telling everyone what was typical for him personally.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again without knowing the overall process of this policy I cannot answer to that or if the AD knew anything. But I would have likely stuck to the written report and not editorialized what is usual or common. If that is not supposed to go in the report, not sure I would have did that with the AD either. I doubt I am alone in that standard because all Mark could have done is made the situation worse by telling everyone what was typical for him personally.

This reminds me of a conversation I once had with a state administrator who called me and asked me questions about a game that I'd already submitted a report for. He got annoyed, I think, when I read the report to him on the phone -- he said, "I got your report, you don't need to read it to me."

Well, when he asked, "What happened," my first thought was that I had sent a pretty thorough report. It was all in there.

[UmpJM]

My opinion is...

1. I think the requirement to call the school is nonsensical.

2. The AD's question about MTD's "practice" in other unrelated situations was wholly inappropriate, and MTD's decision to decline to answer it was proper and sound.

Had the AD instead asked for more "contextual" information about the situation involving his player, I believe I would have cautiously and circumspectly answered his question.

JM

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

My opinion is...

1. I think the requirement to call the school is nonsensical.

2. The AD's question about MTD's "practice" in other unrelated situations was wholly inappropriate, and MTD's decision to decline to answer it was proper and sound.

Had the AD instead asked for more "contextual" information about the situation involving his player, I believe I would have cautiously and circumspectly answered his question.

JM

If this was FB I would hit the "LIKE" button.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If this was FB I would hit the "LIKE" button.

Peace

Me too.