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jicecone Sun May 15, 2011 07:25pm

"I doubt I am alone in that standard because all Mark could have done is made the situation worse by telling everyone what was typical for him personally.'

And I repeat:

AD: Do you always eject a player for swearing?

No Sir, not in all cases. If it is "judged to be of a minor nature" (NFHS3-3-1g2 penalty), , I will properly warn the individual player one on one and let the coach know about it. However, in this case the profanity was loud enough that everyone on and off the field clearly understood what was said and could be offended by its use.

You just controlled the conversation and let the AD know that not only do you know the rules but, have a very good understanding of them and used discretion in the application of them.

And again, if the AD had a problem with that, then he is an Ahole.

Stick to the rules and facts and leave your opinions and emotons at home. Thats the part of officiating that is hardest to learn.

UmpJM Sun May 15, 2011 07:43pm

My opinion is...

1. I think the requirement to call the school is nonsensical.

2. The AD's question about MTD's "practice" in other unrelated situations was wholly inappropriate, and MTD's decision to decline to answer it was proper and sound.

Had the AD instead asked for more "contextual" information about the situation involving his player, I believe I would have cautiously and circumspectly answered his question.

JM

JRutledge Sun May 15, 2011 08:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 758704)
My opinion is...

1. I think the requirement to call the school is nonsensical.

2. The AD's question about MTD's "practice" in other unrelated situations was wholly inappropriate, and MTD's decision to decline to answer it was proper and sound.

Had the AD instead asked for more "contextual" information about the situation involving his player, I believe I would have cautiously and circumspectly answered his question.

JM

If this was FB I would hit the "LIKE" button.

Peace

MD Longhorn Mon May 16, 2011 05:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Reed (Post 758425)
But why on earth are you unwilling to answer some questions about the ejection?

Because it was clearly obvious the AD wanted to get into a pissing match. A completely inappropriate one, I might add.

MD Longhorn Mon May 16, 2011 05:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Clary (Post 758630)
Why didn't you just answer the AD's simple question? You come off looking bad here, IMHO.

It was not a simple question. It was the beginning of an S-storm, one Mark properly avoided. You can't tell me you think AD was asking this for any reason other than to get into an argument, can you?

DG Mon May 16, 2011 07:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 758941)
It was not a simple question. It was the beginning of an S-storm, one Mark properly avoided. You can't tell me you think AD was asking this for any reason other than to get into an argument, can you?

If that is his purpose then he is a RAT too, and less said the better. Follow the stupid state rules and no more. These rules apparently require you to speak with, but not to argue with.

yawetag Mon May 16, 2011 09:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 758941)
It was not a simple question. It was the beginning of an S-storm, one Mark properly avoided. You can't tell me you think AD was asking this for any reason other than to get into an argument, can you?

I agree, Mike. As I said before, if the AD was wanting more information for a possible higher-degree punishment for the kid, then he went about the questioning the wrong way.

Publius Mon May 16, 2011 10:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG (Post 758966)
Follow the stupid state rules and no more.

My seasons go a lot smoother because I ignore the stupid state "rules". The state association is not my employer, and I don't see any compelling reason to care about what they think I ought to do relative to a contract I have with a school to officiate baseball games at that school.

Schools are association members; officials are not. You don't have to dance to every tune it calls.

JRutledge Mon May 16, 2011 10:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Publius (Post 758986)
My seasons go a lot smoother because I ignore the stupid state "rules". The state association is not my employer, and I don't see any compelling reason to care about what they think I ought to do relative to a contract I have with a school to officiate baseball games at that school.

Schools are association members; officials are not. You don't have to dance to every tune it calls.

Don't they have a say over if you are eligible to work games? The requirement was to have them inform the school, not give reasons why they made a call or what is even typical. Mark followed that with flying colors and probably could tell by the tone in the voice of the AD and the nature of the questions how it was going to end up. If he had had a confrontation with him it would have been blown out of proportion. Best to just get off the phone and move an anyway. Not sure how anyone can think that is not acceptable. But then again people have a right to their opinions.

Peace

Adam Mon May 16, 2011 10:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 758545)
If it's stupid to try to learn the parameters then you have a pretty stupid definition of stupid.

Do you really think that was the AD's intent when asking Mark the question? I don't.

Adam Mon May 16, 2011 10:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 758706)
If this was FB I would hit the "LIKE" button.

Peace

Me too.

Adam Mon May 16, 2011 10:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 758941)
It was not a simple question. It was the beginning of an S-storm, one Mark properly avoided. You can't tell me you think AD was asking this for any reason other than to get into an argument, can you?

"Sir, I pulled you over because you were driving 61 in a 55 mph zone."

"Do you stop everyone who drives 6 mph over the limit?"

JRutledge Mon May 16, 2011 11:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 758991)
"Sir, I pulled you over because you were driving 61 in a 55 mph zone."

"Do you stop everyone who drives 6 mph over the limit?"

Yeah, that is going to go over well. :D

Peace

archangel Tue May 17, 2011 03:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 758991)
"Sir, I pulled you over because you were driving 61 in a 55 mph zone."

"Do you stop everyone who drives 6 mph over the limit?"

A great example...

yawetag Tue May 17, 2011 05:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 758991)
"Sir, I pulled you over because you were driving 61 in a 55 mph zone."

"Do you stop everyone who drives 6 mph over the limit?"

"No, only the ones that act like a$$es. Can I see your license?"


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