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Chris Viverito Thu May 05, 2011 08:19am
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Posted on another website. Nice exercise.

In the top of the 3rd inning, with one out and a runner on second base, B1 hits a ground ball to F6, who throws to F3 for the second out of the inning. Thinking instead that the inning is over, F3 begins to leave the field. F3 either (a) tosses the ball into the stands or (b) takes the ball with him into the dugout before realizing his error, upon which he reemerges from the dugout with the ball still in his glove. For each part of this scenario, determine the correct result of the play, how play will resume, and the basis on which you reached that decision (cite your rule[s]). Try it for FED, NCAA, and OBR.

Viv

Welpe Thu May 05, 2011 08:41am
Answering for OBR:

a) Ball is dead for being thrown into the stands. Award R2 home. Next batter is up with two outs. 7.05 (g)

b) This situation isn't specifically covered in the rules. I don't have my (outdated) J/R with me but my first impression is that the ball stays live since 7.04 (c) specifically mentions a fielder falling into the stands or dugout and not stepping into it. This is not catching a fly ball situation so I realize 7.04 (c) may not exactly apply but that seems to me to be the intent. That's my SWAG anyways, I would be glad to be proven wrong. :)

Rich Ives Thu May 05, 2011 08:54am
Two base award for throwing (or intentionally taking) the ball out of play.

Catch-fall and catch-carry only apply to what happens when the momentum while making a catch takes the fielder out of play.

UmpJM Thu May 05, 2011 09:48am
I concur with Rich I. - score the runner either way.

JM

MD Longhorn Thu May 05, 2011 09:53am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Viverito (Post 756200)
Posted on another website. Nice exercise.

In the top of the 3rd inning, with one out and a runner on second base, B1 hits a ground ball to F6, who throws to F3 for the second out of the inning. Thinking instead that the inning is over, F3 begins to leave the field. F3 either (a) tosses the ball into the stands or (b) takes the ball with him into the dugout before realizing his error, upon which he reemerges from the dugout with the ball still in his glove. For each part of this scenario, determine the correct result of the play, how play will resume, and the basis on which you reached that decision (cite your rule[s]). Try it for FED, NCAA, and OBR.

Viv
Score the runner in all codes. Both A & B.

Rich Thu May 05, 2011 10:32am
I wish there was a better reference for this. Or is there one that I'm not finding?

bob jenkins Thu May 05, 2011 10:33am
I would agree with the other posts here. So, what's the big isue on the "other" site (which site?) OR what are we missing.

Chris Viverito Thu May 05, 2011 10:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 756268)
I would agree with the other posts here. So, what's the big isue on the "other" site (which site?) OR what are we missing.
No issue. Almost happened in an MLB game and the situations were offered up for input. The other site is not public. I offered here as an exercise.

Welpe Thu May 05, 2011 10:55am
Well it's not the first time I've been wrong...

yawetag Fri May 06, 2011 01:22am
It was posted in the Umpire Ejection Fantasy League blog, after Pujols thought there were three outs on a groundout.


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