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MikeStrybel Wed Apr 27, 2011 03:20pm

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For those of you who work college ball the link above are the videos I noted. Tom Hiler included two from Detroit Tigers games and in both the umpires aggressively award bases leaving no doubt about the call or for player confusion. The video section of the NCAA Central is a terrific resource.

Simply The Best Wed Apr 27, 2011 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by MikeStrybel (Post 753760)
At the Chicago NCAA meetings they showed a couple MLB plays for obstruction. In both, the umpires were emphatic and immediate in their awards. Even in the bigs, players don't always know where to go on such calls. Tom also showed two NCAA plays involving obstruction - both types. One involved a runner believing that he was protected when in fact he wasn't. Hiler reiterated the need for umpires to be assertive on this call and reminded us that collegiate athletes (in this case D-1) typically aren't aware of the award.

This is one of those rules that very, very few players and coaches grasp. The good is if you can recite the rule verbatim and make it assertively, they are typically sold for no other reason than they haven't a clue how to argue it. Those that think they know will pull out some mythological phrase and try to apply it, again, rule knowledge and assertiveness win the day. I can think of only one EJ where this rule was the cause. Adult ex NCAA Div I coach, ex professionals and collegiate wood bat league. Rule applied, discussion with coach, ensuing discussion (short - he was clueless), more discussion by coach, EJ. Game clock was running, players want to play. :p

DG Wed Apr 27, 2011 06:41pm

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Originally Posted by Simply The Best (Post 753898)
I can think of only one EJ where this rule was the cause. Adult ex NCAA Div I coach, ex professionals and collegiate wood bat league. Rule applied, discussion with coach, ensuing discussion (short - he was clueless), more discussion by coach, EJ. Game clock was running, players want to play. :p

Interesting. I stopped working adult league games years ago, too big hassle, but I never worked one where there was a clock on the game.

Simply The Best Wed Apr 27, 2011 07:41pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 753927)
Interesting. I stopped working adult league games years ago, too big hassle, but I never worked one where there was a clock on the game.

3 hours or 9 innings, whichever first. Two games per field starting at 1 PM Sunday, some fields refuse to supply lights. Weekday games started after work ~ 6PM typically on lit fields but often in neighborhoods where "lights out" was 10:00 PM mandated.

yawetag Wed Apr 27, 2011 07:54pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 753738)
Catching a ball (grounder, line drive, popup) is never a play. I wonder why so many umpires have a problem with this concept.

If it were a play, there would be no reason for the rule, as all throws would be a subsequent play.


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