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tw1ns Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:20am

Test Question
 
It is a legal substitution when a player entering the game does so without reporting.

is it only illegal when it is disovered by the opposing team or the umpire?

UmpJM Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:24am

tw1ns,

No.

JM

tw1ns Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:34am

if he does not report and it is not discovered before the next pitch, there is no penalty, correct?

UmpJM Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:42am

tw1ns,

If he does not "report", he is simply an "unannounced sub" - which is perfectly legal (assuming of course he IS a "legal" sub), regardless of when or if anyone ever "notices" his entry into the game.

While not especially "courteous", there is NO penalty for an unannounced sub - EVER. (Again, assuming he is "legal".)

If you are speaking in the context of FED, see 3-1-1, particularly the a.,b., etc. part.

JM

MrUmpire Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw1ns (Post 750602)
It is a legal substitution when a player entering the game does so without reporting.

is it only illegal when it is disovered by the opposing team or the umpire?

The answer is "true". A player need not report.

johnnyg08 Fri Apr 15, 2011 06:23pm

Don't fall for that trick. I actually had an ejection a few years ago because the manager just wouldn't let it go that I didn't call him out.

rbmartin Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:04am

3.08 (a) If no announcement of a substitution is made, the substitute shall be considered as having entered the game when_

(1) If a pitcher, he takes his place on the pitcher's plate;

(2) If a batter, he takes his place in the batter's box;

(3) If a fielder, he reaches the position usually occupied by the fielder he has replaced, and play commences;

(4) If a runner, he takes the place of the runner he has replaced.

(b) Any play made by, or on, any of the above mentioned unannounced substitutes shall be legal.





All these scenarios assume the player in question is otherwise eligible to enter the game.
DO NOT confuse this with batting out of order. It's a different animal altogether.

ManInBlue Sat Apr 16, 2011 06:15pm

Well heck far - it's so much legal they made a point to write a rule 'pacifically about it!! :D


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