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yankeesfan Sat Mar 26, 2011 04:41pm

play at first
 
ball hit to the first baseman, he drops the ball and picks it up with his bare hand and touches first base with the glove while the ball secure in his other hand still. is this an out?

Tim C Sat Mar 26, 2011 04:45pm

~Huh~
 
Why wouldn't it be?

If he touched the base with his foot, would you ask the same question?

T

yankeesfan Sat Mar 26, 2011 04:46pm

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Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 744052)
Why wouldn't it be?

If he touched the base with his foot, would you ask the same question?

T

i agree with you, the umpire didnt agree with me. i am an umpire myself but he didnt know that.

UmpJM Sat Mar 26, 2011 04:51pm

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan (Post 744053)
.... i am an umpire myself but he didnt know that.

Was that before, after, or both?

If both, I simply would like to compliment you on your discretion.

JM

yankeesfan Sat Mar 26, 2011 05:06pm

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Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 744056)
Was that before, after, or both?

If both, I simply would like to compliment you on your discretion.

JM

i never mentioned to him i was an umpire. i finally used my head. lol

UmpJM Sat Mar 26, 2011 05:13pm

My compliments. sir.

(And I can't tell you how hard that was for me to say to someone with your screen name! ;) )

JM

ozzy6900 Sat Mar 26, 2011 08:47pm

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan (Post 744051)
ball hit to the first baseman, he drops the ball and picks it up with his bare hand and touches first base with the glove while the ball secure in his other hand still. is this an out?

Was it a day or night game?
Were there a bald headed guy in the 3rd row?
Do you walk to work of carry your lunch?

Don't laugh --- these are very important questions for us to be able to determine the answer a question like this!

MrUmpire Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by yankeesfan (Post 744051)
ball hit to the first baseman, he drops the ball and picks it up with his bare hand and touches first base with the glove while the ball secure in his other hand still. Is this an out?

htbt ;)

mbyron Sun Mar 27, 2011 07:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by yankeesfan (Post 744051)
ball hit to the first baseman, he drops the ball and picks it up with his bare hand and touches first base with the glove while the ball secure in his other hand still. is this an out?

Did the tag beat the runner?

BK47 Sun Mar 27, 2011 08:06am

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan (Post 744051)
he drops the ball and picks it up with his bare hand and touches first base with the glove while the ball secure in his other hand still.

I've got a problem with this guys. If the ball beat the runner and F3 was taking the ball from his glove when he dropped it, Yes its an out. Ball was dropped on the transfer.

However if he just plan dropped it then picked it up with his bare hand and touched the base with his gloved hand not his foot, then I'm sorry I dont have an out.

Isnt that the same as tagging a runner with your gloved hand while the ball is in your bare hand?

bob jenkins Sun Mar 27, 2011 08:19am

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Originally Posted by BK47 (Post 744180)
I've got a problem with this guys. If the ball beat the runner and F3 was taking the ball from his glove when he dropped it, Yes its an out. Ball was dropped on the transfer.

However if he just plan dropped it then picked it up with his bare hand and touched the base with his gloved hand not his foot, then I'm sorry I dont have an out.

Isnt that the same as tagging a runner with your gloved hand while the ball is in your bare hand?

No, it's not the same.

Read 2.00 Tag and note the different wording between tagging a base, and tagging a person.

Simply The Best Sun Mar 27, 2011 08:43am

Originally Posted by BK47 http://forum.officiating.com/images/...s/viewpost.gif
I've got a problem with this guys. If the ball beat the runner and F3 was taking the ball from his glove when he dropped it, Yes its an out. Ball was dropped on the transfer.

However if he just plan dropped it then picked it up with his bare hand and touched the base with his gloved hand not his foot, then I'm sorry I dont have an out.

Isnt that the same as tagging a runner with your gloved hand while the ball is in your bare hand?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 744182)
No, it's not the same.

Read 2.00 Tag and note the different wording between tagging a base, and tagging a person.

+1

Well done, Bob! ;)

greymule Sun Mar 27, 2011 09:02am

The last guy who said to me, "I'm an umpire," did so in an attempt to lend weight to his claim that I should have called a runner out at home for not sliding.

I figured there was no call. The runner had made no contact with the catcher, and the ball was in fact lying several feet from the plate when the runner scored.

However, this umpire told me, "A runner is required to slide on a close play. It's right in the book in black and white!"

Other details of the play: (1) day game, (2) yes, bald-headed guy in the third row, and (3) I didn't eat lunch that day.

BK47 Sun Mar 27, 2011 09:32am

ok, a little play on words but I think I understand now.

jicecone Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:00am

That is what is wrong with this forum. You guys, are missing the important points here.

Lets break this down:

1. Ball hit to the first baseman.
2. He drops the ball.
3. He picks it up with his bare hand
4. He touches first base with the glove while the ball is secure in his other hand still.
5. The runner steps on first with his brand new Nikey cleats.

Now, is he safe or out?

Gee wiz, what is so hard to understand. Give the guy a strate answer!


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