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MikeStrybel Tue Feb 22, 2011 08:56pm
I may be wrong but the CBUA brief Fetcheit sent out stated that the test review is available for the questions we answered. The full test is also available but you have to take it - the score doesn't count, so it is for knowledge and gratification. The answers to that are either immediately available when thes test is scored or will be later. I'm renovating a house so I have little time for taking the whole test right now. The honey-do list is getting lengthy!

JJ - I know what malicious means. I simply was looking for NCAA support to determine proper penalty. I've seen enough plays over the years to usually know when someone is being a thug versus good ol' hardnosed baseball. The question I posed was as much for my knowledge as to help others. Thanks to Rich, Bob and you.

Cubs play Sunday...101 and counting.

dash_riprock Tue Feb 22, 2011 09:57pm
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Originally Posted by MikeStrybel (Post 733204)
I may be wrong but the CBUA brief Fetcheit sent out stated that the test review is available for the questions we answered. The full test is also available but you have to take it - the score doesn't count, so it is for knowledge and gratification. The answers to that are either immediately available when thes test is scored or will be later.
The answers for the full test (106 questions) are available immediately after submitting it. Let me know if you want any particular answers and/or rule cites.

Rich Ives Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:43am
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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 733189)
Hmmm...thanks Rich. The league I umpire only uses the college collision rule at home plate. Certainly a runner that comes in standing up and walks into the tag has created contact above the waist, but is certainly not going to be ejected. After reading your post, I will certainly read it again...but perhaps I didn't write it as concisely as I should have.
Contact above the waist initiated by the runner is proof of intent to dislodge thus an out even if the ball is dropped. An ejection happens only if judged malicious on top of that.

bob jenkins Wed Feb 23, 2011 08:58am
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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 733267)
Contact above the waist initiated by the runner is proof of intent to dislodge thus an out even if the ball is dropped. An ejection happens only if judged malicious on top of that.
Agreed, but it assumes that F2 is more-or-less standing.

If F2 goes to his knees to block/catch a throw and R3 goes "down" toward the plate, R3 will likely make contact "above the waist" but this isn't necessarily an out.

Rich Ives Wed Feb 23, 2011 09:56am
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 733389)
Agreed, but it assumes that F2 is more-or-less standing.

If F2 goes to his knees to block/catch a throw and R3 goes "down" toward the plate, R3 will likely make contact "above the waist" but this isn't necessarily an out.
I presume that's why the "initiated by the runner" is in there.


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