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Rich Ives Sat Jan 29, 2011 08:44am

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Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 723025)
I fixed it for you.. read the rules, it does not say anything about a quality throw..LOL dont read into the rule so much.

Rule 6.05k
In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is
being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or
inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire’s judgment in so doing
interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is
dead; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the three-foot line or inside (to
the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;

It is derived. You can't interfere with the fielder taking the throw if it wasn't possible to take the throw.


Same as no pass interference in American football if the pass is uncatchable.

mbyron Sat Jan 29, 2011 08:46am

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Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 723025)
I fixed it for you.. read the rules, it does not say anything about a quality throw..LOL dont read into the rule so much.

LOL, read the interps. :rolleyes:

Spizzico Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:14am

What does it mean? the rule is the rule, But is not complete, for this reason you resort to interpretations of the Rules ... in Italy we do not, we use only the OBR :(
the concept of "quality throw" is an interpretation of OBR? it is right that I should consider? thanks for the education!

Steven Tyler Sat Jan 29, 2011 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by Spizzico (Post 723143)
What does it mean? the rule is the rule, But is not complete, for this reason you resort to interpretations of the Rules ... in Italy we do not, we use only the OBR :(
the concept of "quality throw" is an interpretation of OBR? it is right that I should consider? thanks for the education!

Ci. Ci.

Spizzico Sat Jan 29, 2011 06:40pm

??????:confused:

mbyron Sat Jan 29, 2011 07:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spizzico (Post 723143)
What does it mean? the rule is the rule, But is not complete, for this reason you resort to interpretations of the Rules ... in Italy we do not, we use only the OBR :(
the concept of "quality throw" is an interpretation of OBR? it is right that I should consider? thanks for the education!

That's right. You might consider the very illuminating The Rules of Professional Baseball, which you can purchase at Rules of Baseball.com. Good balance of content and comprehensiveness.

ozzy6900 Sat Jan 29, 2011 08:02pm

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Originally Posted by Spizzico (Post 723143)
What does it mean? the rule is the rule, But is not complete, for this reason you resort to interpretations of the Rules ... in Italy we do not, we use only the OBR :(
the concept of "quality throw" is an interpretation of OBR? it is right that I should consider? thanks for the education!

The Official Baseball Rules (OBR) were written throughout the 19th & 20th Century. As a matter of fact, the last major rule change was in 1973 - American League DH Rule was added as an experiment - 38 years later, the "experiment" is still going on! You can view the historical side of the rules at this link >>>> Baseball Almanac - Rules History.

The rules are vague and some even contradict each other. To properly umpire, you need to understand the interpretation of the rules. In scenario, the quality of the throw is important because otherwise, the catcher could simply throw the ball away or directly at the batter/runner and get the out. (In our High School rules (Federation Rules) the quality of the throw is not a consideration. As long as there is a throw, and the batter/runner is not in the land, interference may be called.) This rule is a good example of how the OBR is open ended and vague.

Umpmazza Mon Jan 31, 2011 01:04am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 723128)
LOL, read the interps. :rolleyes:

I cant seem to find that in the OBR rule book.. can you please provide....I see the comment, but that didnt talk about a "quality throw.."

mbyron Mon Jan 31, 2011 07:57am

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Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 724053)
I cant seem to find that in the OBR rule book.. can you please provide....I see the comment, but that didnt talk about a "quality throw.."

Sure, for one easy-to-use reference see post #36. JEA and PBUC provide others and are more authoritative for pro ball.

Umpmazza Mon Jan 31, 2011 08:07am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 724099)
Sure, for one easy-to-use reference see post #36. JEA and PBUC provide others and are more authoritative for pro ball.

got yea.. but post #36 is just a guy on a message board writing.. I didnt see anything..I will let you know more about the PBUC intrep soon..


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