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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 09:08pm
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With U1 at first with 2 outs this puts U1 in the best position for the 3rd out playing the percentages. This falls in line with pro mechanics. U1 will have plays at first and BR into second. This is simply a reverse rotation, or slide. It really isnt that difficult. It is merely putting the umpires in the best positions for the most likely plays. Mechanics evolve. Evolve with them.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:05am
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With U1 at first with 2 outs this puts U1 in the best position for the 3rd out playing the percentages. This falls in line with pro mechanics. U1 will have plays at first and BR into second. This is simply a reverse rotation, or slide. It really isnt that difficult. It is merely putting the umpires in the best positions for the most likely plays. Mechanics evolve. Evolve with them.
That is not what the CCA manual says. It is telling us that U1 will have all plays at first and U3 has everything at second and third base. They don't want us to rotate at all. Check out page 168 in the new manual.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:56pm
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That is not what the CCA manual says. It is telling us that U1 will have all plays at first and U3 has everything at second and third base. They don't want us to rotate at all. Check out page 168 in the new manual.
OK. Havent read the new CCA manual yet.

Common sense says to slide taking BR to 2nd, same as bases loaded or R1,R2. Granted, with 2 outs and R2 or R2,R3, both runners will most likely score if BR goes to second. By sliding, it maintains the NCAA philosophy of having the runner boxed in having an umpire in front and behind him.

Pregame with your partner and work it out.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 02:16pm
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Even more than FED, it seems at times that the CCA makes changes for the sake of selling manuals.

I am not opposed to change, but leaving U1 in A to do nothing while U3 takes B/R to second and beyond is not, in my opinion, the best use of resources.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 02:34pm
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Even more than FED, it seems at times that the CCA makes changes for the sake of selling manuals.

I am not opposed to change, but leaving U1 in A to do nothing while U3 takes B/R to second and beyond is not, in my opinion, the best use of resources.
It's what happens on a bases empty triple, and with two outs chances are that there's no play on R2 at third if BR is trying for second. So, have U3 waiting for BR at second and then escorting him to third.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 02:45pm
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It's what happens on a bases empty triple, and with two outs chances are that there's no play on R2 at third if BR is trying for second. So, have U3 waiting for BR at second and then escorting him to third.
On a bases empty triple there is a rotation, so U3 only has the BR into second base and the PU has him at third base. U1 only has him at first and rotates to the plate if the BR commits to third base.

I like putting U1 on the line with two outs. I do not like leaving U1 at first on a base hit like the CCA is saying. I really prefer the "slide" that TTS is talking about.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 03:04pm
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It's what happens on a bases empty triple, and with two outs chances are that there's no play on R2 at third if BR is trying for second. So, have U3 waiting for BR at second and then escorting him to third.

So, doing it under one set of conditions justifies another. Again, not the most efficient use of resources.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 06:24pm
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So, doing it under one set of conditions justifies another. Again, not the most efficient use of resources.
No one way is right all the time.

A double is more likely than a triple. Having U2 waiting on the double is better than having U1 running to get to the spot (not that U1 couldn't do it if needed).
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