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chuckfan1 Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:57pm

Catch or No-Catch--Video
 
YouTube - Umpire... Catch / No Catch Lake Travis vs. Calallen 2010 4A Regional Final 1/3

asdf Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:11pm

Nada

David B Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:14pm

The players movement on the play had stopped once he caught the ball, so i would think this would be a catch. Tough play and tough call for the umpire.

Thanks
David

MD Longhorn Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:17pm

Tough call for the man on the spot, but seeing it on the video this is a clear no catch. No voluntary release.

johnnyg08 Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:17pm

The player must demonstrate voluntary release of the ball. The ball appears to fall out of his glove. No catch.

JRutledge Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:41am

I have no catch.

Peace

jicecone Thu Jul 08, 2010 04:27am

no catch

GoodwillRef Thu Jul 08, 2010 05:36am

Nice try young man...you made the local news but not Sportscenter, no catch.

mbyron Thu Jul 08, 2010 06:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by David B (Post 684843)
The players movement on the play had stopped once he caught the ball, so i would think this would be a catch. Tough play and tough call for the umpire.

Thanks
David

This is the kind of comment that is likely to throw off new umpires. The rule (2.00 CATCH) does not mention the "player's movement," so that's an utter red herring.

The rule does, however, employ the concept of voluntary release ("In establishing the validity of the catch, the fielder shall hold the ball long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball and that his release of the ball is voluntary and intentional.").

That's what's missing in this play. It's not a difficult call, provided that one has good timing and watches the whole play.

GA Umpire Thu Jul 08, 2010 09:44am

I have no catch. His rolling over to show the ball is still part of the play. So, he has to demonstrate voluntary release. Which he didn't. It came out of his glove as he was showing the ball.

No voluntary release while the play was still being made. No catch.

MichaelVA2000 Thu Jul 08, 2010 07:12pm

No voluntary release. No catch.

johnnyg08 Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:27am

Quote:

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