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Spence Wed Jun 16, 2010 06:57pm

Collision at Home Plate
 
I'm not an umpire so I'm not clear on the requirements. Its my layman's understanding that the runner must try to avoid contact.

WYMT Sports Page

On the right hand side you will see a video section. Click on the "June 15th - 11" to see the collision at home.

What would you do with the runner?

Ump29 Wed Jun 16, 2010 07:21pm

I can only comment on rules for Canada (modified OBR) but I would have runner out and ejected.

jicecone Wed Jun 16, 2010 07:32pm

A 1 sec collision?

Catcher on knees and moves into runner, not a smart move son.

MrUmpire Wed Jun 16, 2010 07:40pm

After watching it by stopping and starting the action throughout the play, it appears the runner is well to the right of the foul line with a clear path to the plate and the catcher is set up to the left of the foul line. The catcher leans in at the last moment and the contact is with the glove, arm and shoulder of the catcher.

No MC, no reason to eject.

edited to correct an error brought on by a huge brain freeze or stroke or severe deficiency of one mineral or another.

rbmartin Wed Jun 16, 2010 08:50pm

My call? Out. Play on!

Welpe Wed Jun 16, 2010 08:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 682241)

I score the run.

I have him out on the tag. :)

DG Wed Jun 16, 2010 09:28pm

Not MC in my view.

MrUmpire Thu Jun 17, 2010 01:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 682251)
I have him out on the tag. :)

You are absolutely correct. A major brain freeze here.

I was focused so intently on whether or not there was MC, I just ignored the tag. My regrets....

mbyron Thu Jun 17, 2010 06:37am

I'm with the growing consensus: runner is out on the tag. No MC, as he was running wide, and F2 moved into his path to tag him.

GoodwillRef Thu Jun 17, 2010 08:37am

The catcher moved into the runner, the catcher was not there, with the ball, waiting to tag the runner. This is nothing more than an out.

Welpe Thu Jun 17, 2010 08:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 682278)
You are absolutely correct. A major brain freeze here.

I was focused so intently on whether or not there was MC, I just ignored the tag. My regrets....

No worries, I figured as much. We agree on the major point, no MC.

jdmara Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:06am

I have a dissenting opinion on this play. Are you calling this a legal slide by the offensive player? If appears he makes shoulder to chest/shoulder contact with the catcher! In my opinion this is not a legal slide and, therefore, I have MC.

-Josh

UmpJM Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 682327)
I have a dissenting opinion on this play. Are you calling this a legal slide by the offensive player? If appears he makes shoulder to chest/shoulder contact with the catcher! In my opinion this is not a legal slide and, therefore, I have MC.

-Josh

Josh,

What do you think is illegal about the slide?

JM

MD Longhorn Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:20am

jd - show us the rule that requires this runner to legally slide and how that applies to this particular situation.

Agree with the masses. For there to be MC, there must be something M. I'm not sure runner could have done anything else with F2 moving into his path.

UmpJM Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 682327)
I have a dissenting opinion on this play. Are you calling this a legal slide by the offensive player? If appears he makes shoulder to chest/shoulder contact with the catcher! In my opinion this is not a legal slide and, therefore, I have MC.

-Josh

Josh,

What do you think is illegal about the slide?

An illegal slide is not, per se, malicious contact.

JM


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