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jimmy6 Wed Jun 02, 2010 09:50pm

Hit By Pitch
 
Ok getting a lot of different answers on this.

Pitcher pitches the ball it hits the ground then hits the batter. How is this ruled?

tjones1 Wed Jun 02, 2010 09:56pm

Batter take your base.

johnnyg08 Wed Jun 02, 2010 09:58pm

Take your base. Don't accept another answer and don't call it a strike.

MD Longhorn Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:06pm

The ball hitting the ground is completely irrelevant. The only thing the umpire has to decide is whether the batter tried to get out of the way, or just let it hit him on purpose.

yawetag Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:22am

Why isn't this a HBP, and what argument do coaches use to even make you question it?

DG Thu Jun 03, 2010 06:59am

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 679869)
Why isn't this a HBP, and what argument do coaches use to even make you question it?

The comment I hear most often is "it hit the ground blue", as if that is an explanation. This is 2nd cousin to "it hit the plate blue", as an explanation for why a ball should be foul.

Rich Ives Thu Jun 03, 2010 09:20am

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Originally Posted by jimmy6 (Post 679819)
Ok getting a lot of different answers on this.

Pitcher pitches the ball it hits the ground then hits the batter. How is this ruled?

See rule 2.00 "Ball".

yawetag Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG (Post 679896)
The comment I hear most often is "it hit the ground blue", as if that is an explanation.

Which is easily answered with "If your batter hits a home run on a ball that bounces, should I bring him back?"

Rita C Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy6 (Post 679819)
Ok getting a lot of different answers on this.

Pitcher pitches the ball it hits the ground then hits the batter. How is this ruled?

The batter is ruled "hit by pitch".

As I understand it, in slow pitch softball a pitch that hits the dirt is a dead ball so nothing can happen after it hits the ground. So this is a real rule that people think applies to baseball as well.

One way to explain it to the coach is to remind them that a pitch that goes to the backstop is still live ball so hitting the ground doesn't kill it.

Rita

waltjp Fri Jun 04, 2010 07:13am

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 679896)
The comment I hear most often is "it hit the ground blue", as if that is an explanation.

And my reply always is, "Yes, I saw that too!"

JJ Fri Jun 04, 2010 09:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy6 (Post 679819)
Ok getting a lot of different answers on this.

Pitcher pitches the ball it hits the ground then hits the batter. How is this ruled?

Who are you getting your answers from? Put them on your "ignore" list.

JJ

piaa_ump Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy6 (Post 679819)
Ok getting a lot of different answers on this.

Pitcher pitches the ball it hits the ground then hits the batter. How is this ruled?

remember anyone who is gave you a differing answer other than HBP, and dont listen to them again regarding umpiring....

DG Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 680113)
Which is easily answered with "If your batter hits a home run on a ball that bounces, should I bring him back?"

Better answer is "So, what's your point?", instead of bringing up a completely different situation.

TwoBits Sat Jun 05, 2010 06:48am

If a coach insists on pursuing this argument, ask them why an MLB pitcher doesn't try to bounce one and hit a batter in the shins or ankles. If it was possible to bean a player AND keep him batting, a pro would have figured out how to do it by now.

Then try to hide your smile when they give you the deer in headlights look...

jicecone Sat Jun 05, 2010 09:48am

OBR- "A BALL is a pitch which does not enter the strike zone in flight and is not struck at by the batter.

Rule 2.00 (Ball) Comment: If the pitch touches the ground and bounces through the strike zone it is a “ball.” If such a pitch touches the batter, he shall be awarded first base."

Just learn the rule and tell them to look it up if they don't believe you. There is no need to give a smart-a** answer or any other irrelavant scenario when the facts are in black and white.


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