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GA Umpire Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:14am

If he is not swinging, the call is "Time! Batter go to 1B." Any runners forced by the batter can advance 1 base. Those not forced stay at their TOP base.

Unless the batter swings at it, then it is "Time! Strike #. Batter stay here." If strike 3, he is out. All runners have to return their TOP base.

Is this enough of a consistent answer for you to realize what the correct call is? Those who say it is not a HBP are wrong. Ignore them in regards to umpiring forever.

TwoBits Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 680346)

Just learn the rule and tell them to look it up if they don't believe you. There is no need to give a smart-a** answer or any other irrelavant scenario when the facts are in black and white.

I've sat in the stands and have seen this happen: ball hit ground and batter, batter awarded first. Coach protests, rule book brought out, coach sees rule, but still refuses to believe it. For some coaches, black and white still isn't enough.

Rich Ives Sat Jun 05, 2010 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by TwoBits (Post 680363)
I've sat in the stands and have seen this happen: ball hit ground and batter, batter awarded first. Coach protests, rule book brought out, coach sees rule, but still refuses to believe it. For some coaches, black and white still isn't enough.

Which rukle do you show him?

Show him 2.00 "Ball" - it's REAL clear there.

DG Sat Jun 05, 2010 09:16pm

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Originally Posted by TwoBits (Post 680363)
I've sat in the stands and have seen this happen: ball hit ground and batter, batter awarded first. Coach protests, rule book brought out, coach sees rule, but still refuses to believe it. For some coaches, black and white still isn't enough.

Who brought out the rule book and why? This is Rules 101 stuff.

MrUmpire Sat Jun 05, 2010 09:47pm

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Originally Posted by TwoBits (Post 680363)
I've sat in the stands and have seen this happen: ball hit ground and batter, batter awarded first. Coach protests, rule book brought out, coach sees rule, but still refuses to believe it. For some coaches, black and white still isn't enough.

If the coach brought out the rule book, he's gone. If the umpire brought out the rule book, he's a fool.

DG Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:43pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 680402)
If the coach brought out the rule book, he's gone. If the umpire brought out the rule book, he's a fool.

It's why I asked. I have seen umpires call for the rulebook one time, in a game I was observing.

TwoBits Sun Jun 06, 2010 07:21am

FED game in Missouri. On field protests of rule misapplications are allowed. Coach has ten minutes to prove the umpire was wrong by citing the correct rule. However, the state association has instructed officials to point out the correct ruling in the rule book when possible so as to not delay the game unnecesarily.


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