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Kevin Finnerty Thu Nov 19, 2009 03:44pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 637148)
I can see where I was a bit unclear...my point is that FED does not eforce their requirements and, the last I knew, did not conduct random tests of any of the various manufacturer's products. They are primarily interested in the revenue generated by selling the rights to their logo and are minimally, if at all, interested in the quality of items that bear that logo.
And that makes them just like most American businesses and corporations.

[I know, the truth again; I'm sorry in advance]

UmpJM Thu Nov 19, 2009 04:02pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 637148)
I can see where I was a bit unclear...my point is that FED does not eforce their requirements and, the last I knew, did not conduct random tests of any of the various manufacturer's products. They are primarily interested in the revenue generated by selling the rights to their logo and are minimally, if at all, interested in the quality of items that bear that logo.
MrUmpire,

No, you were perfectly clear. My response was intended to support your assertion.

A friend of mine who is "in the business" informed me that FED does absolutely nothing to verify that the baseballs conform to spec. They do, however, require that the vendor states that the balls conform to the specs when they apply for permission to use the "mark".

JM

bob jenkins Fri Nov 20, 2009 08:58am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 637159)
And that makes them just like most American businesses and corporations.

[I know, the truth again; I'm sorry in advance]
1) You're not sorry.

2) It's your view of the truth. We get it. Now drop it.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:23am
It's not a big deal, Bob. And my views, as you know, are reality based, and not fantasy based.

bob jenkins Fri Nov 20, 2009 01:51pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 637308)
It's not a big deal, Bob. And my views, as you know, are reality based, and not fantasy based.
I don't know what they are based on.

I do know the kind of response they (and any similar posts expressing views from either side of the political, etc. spectrum) gather. I do know that they (ditto) don't advance the art of umpiring. That's why they (ditto) are routinely deleted.

We can see that in the posts I've deleted since you posted this.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Nov 20, 2009 02:41pm
We're all adults. So it's always a little silly when we can't have adult exchanges.

And opening the minds and eyes of umpires should advance the art of umpiring, should it not?

I suppose I should focus on things that are possible.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Nov 20, 2009 03:03pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 637328)
I do know that they (ditto) don't advance the art of umpiring. That's why they (ditto) are routinely deleted.
I didn't realize that you too were a (ditto) head.:rolleyes:

Steven Tyler Sun Nov 22, 2009 08:04pm
Back to the topic at hand
 
I did some research and I came up with three manufactorer's that made FED legal baseballs. The three are Rawlings, Wilson and Diamond.

Rawlings model numbers.

R100HSNF
R100-NFHS
RNFHS

Wilson model numbers.

A1001B SST
A1010B PROSET
A1010B HS1-SST

Diamond model numbers

D1-NFHS-NY
D1-PRO-NFHS
D1-NFHS
DOL-1NFHS


These models are the only ones with the NFHS logo:

D1-NFHS-NY
D1-PRO-NFHS
D1-NFHS

The D1-NFHS-NY is the Official New York State High Baseball Coaches Association Baseball. This appears to be the only legal baseball that the State of New York uses. This could be why the protest in New York State was upheld.

mick Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:13pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ (Post 635317)
In Illinois, play the game and file a report with the Illinois High School Association. They follow up with an inquiry to the respective schools.

JJ
Same in Michigan.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 637617)
I did some research and I came up with three manufactorer's that made FED legal baseballs. The three are Rawlings, Wilson and Diamond.

Rawlings model numbers.

R100HSNF
R100-NFHS
RNFHS

Wilson model numbers.

A1001B SST
A1010B PROSET
A1010B HS1-SST

Diamond model numbers

D1-NFHS-NY
D1-PRO-NFHS
D1-NFHS
DOL-1NFHS


These models are the only ones with the NFHS logo:

D1-NFHS-NY
D1-PRO-NFHS
D1-NFHS

The D1-NFHS-NY is the Official New York State High Baseball Coaches Association Baseball. This appears to be the only legal baseball that the State of New York uses. This could be why the protest in New York State was upheld.
Well, since I know that I just did some games with Pro Nine NFHS stamped balls, and made a post stating that I did, I did a little research of my own and came up with these:

http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/...--10096755.jpg

http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/...--10097024.jpg

RPatrino Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:29am
Nice balls, Steve.

bossman72 Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:56pm
...you know it's the offseason when we're having an 8 page discussion about the leagality of baseballs

SanDiegoSteve Mon Nov 23, 2009 08:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPatrino (Post 637705)
Nice balls, Steve.
Thanks. I wanted to sound off like I've got a pair.;)

JJ Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:33pm
....I've put mine away for the season..... :rolleyes:

JJ

jicecone Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:35pm
They must be brand spanking new because I can still see the stiches.

Hope your recovering nicely.


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