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Lapopez Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 633922)
Sure, in that case, with the BR himself requesting time, you could grant time and rule on the dead-ball appeal. Since the BR requested time, I would rule that he had "completed his advancement" as required by 8-2-6c1.

So Greymule was correct that in both OBR and FED, by calling time, the offense gets the benefit of being able to return to the missed base without liability of being called out?

greymule Sat Oct 31, 2009 01:08pm

No. mbyron pointed out that by asking for time, the BR has announced that he has completed his advancement. So even if he returned to the bag, he could be declared out on appeal. The offense can't make a mistake and then ask for time in the hope that the umpire will grant it and thus allow them to correct their mistake with impunity.

Lapopez Sat Oct 31, 2009 01:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by greymule (Post 633945)
No. mbyron pointed out that by asking for time, the BR has announced that he has completed his advancement. So even if he returned to the bag, he could be declared out on appeal. The offense can't make a mistake and then ask for time in the hope that the umpire will grant it and thus allow them to correct their mistake with impunity.

Ok to summarize...

OBR: Safe
FED: Out

Correct?

mbyron Sat Oct 31, 2009 01:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapopez (Post 633949)
Ok to summarize...

OBR: Safe
FED: Out

Correct?

Not quite.

For OBR I would not grant time immediately, since doing so gives the offense an advantage. Since the ball is still live, the defense can still appeal. If the defense gives no indication of wishing to appeal, I will grant the request for time.

For FED the BR is out if the appeal is properly made before BR returns to the base.

Lapopez Sat Oct 31, 2009 03:32pm

Thank you. I agree with you, with the caveat that the appeal is before the runner returns to first.


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