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SanDiegoSteve Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11 (Post 624068)
How is this any different from a bleacher creature at Wrigley?

C'mon, is it really that big of a deal?

Yes, it's different. At Wrigley, the moron fans throw back home run balls, and is a tradition. The outfielders know the ball is coming, as they are the Cubs' outfielders, and therefore know the mentality of their fans.

In the Toronto situation, the guy threw a foul ball back into the field and could have injured someone. Nobody is expecting (but now maybe they should) a foul ball to be thrown back onto the field.

So, believe it or not, it makes the Toronto moron more of a moron than the Chicago moron.;)

Kevin Finnerty Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:17am

Candlestick Park, 1989, Dodgers vs. Giants.

Late in the game (which means the moron fan in this story had plenty of time to get plowed), a ball is fouled about 20 rows behind the plate. This moron--who was a lot like the moron in Toronto (pronounced Tronno)--picked up the ball, with a beer cup in his off hand just like the other moron, and after a brief pause, he threw the ball right between Rick Dempsey and the lefty batter, Brett Butler. Butler broke into a trot away from the plate, and Dempsey turned around with a fighter's look in his eyes. It cleared Dempsey's right ear by less than a foot, and it was a shocker to everybody, except Fernando, who just walked up and picked it up like he was fielding a grounder.

Well, five guys landed on this idiot and when the cops rushed in (Candlestick had armed, uniformed cops), they actually had to work to get the group to stop mauling the guy. They literally dragged this bleeding, semi-conscious, handcuffed drunk all the way up the stairs. I watched his feet slap the top of each step as they dragged him away.

Moronic Canadian fan behavior is always much less surprising.

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 06, 2009 08:26am

Holy bashing on Canadians.

TussAgee11 Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:09am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 624073)
Yes, it's different. At Wrigley, the moron fans throw back home run balls, and is a tradition. The outfielders know the ball is coming, as they are the Cubs' outfielders, and therefore know the mentality of their fans.

In the Toronto situation, the guy threw a foul ball back into the field and could have injured someone. Nobody is expecting (but now maybe they should) a foul ball to be thrown back onto the field.

So, believe it or not, it makes the Toronto moron more of a moron than the Chicago moron.;)

Listen, the guy should be tossed as he violated the terms of his ticket. However...

Are Wrigley outfielders standing there watching, waiting for the ball to come back in? I don't believe they always are. A guy with his back turned (such as OF) who gets hit in the occipital lobe, dead.

I just think there are bigger fish to fry when talking about fan behavior. Similarly, if you want to rip on Canadians, there are alot better ways to do it :rolleyes::p;)

LDUB Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:29am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624075)
Well, five guys landed on this idiot and when the cops rushed in (Candlestick had armed, uniformed cops), they actually had to work to get the group to stop mauling the guy. They literally dragged this bleeding, semi-conscious, handcuffed drunk all the way up the stairs. I watched his feet slap the top of each step as they dragged him away.

Moronic Canadian fan behavior is always much less surprising.

So how much time did those 5 guys spend in jail and how much money did they end up having to pay? Seems like they are pretty big morons themselves.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11 (Post 624104)

Are Wrigley outfielders standing there watching, waiting for the ball to come back in? I don't believe they always are. A guy with his back turned (such as OF) who gets hit in the occipital lobe, dead.

Yes, the Cubs outfielders are hip to the fact that ALL home run balls by the opposition are ALWAYS going to be thrown back in due to peer pressure to do so. And I've never seen a Cub fan throw a ball anywhere close to a fielder who wasn't looking.

Forest Ump Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:48pm

If you play it back to when the dude throws the ball, you can see his follow through conks his buddy in the nose. His buddy leans over and says, "Hey hoser, you just bonked me in the nose."

cc6 Sun Sep 06, 2009 05:25pm

It seems like disruptive fan behaviour at Blue Jays games is not penalized very heavily by criminal prosecution. This is the first time I have actually seen them bust somebody for throwing stuff. I'm not familiar with fan behaviour in the states, but is it common for MLB parks in America to display behaviour such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=299sM...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rUdZVjE7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co4wW...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFBa...eature=related
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=tor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALkCcgIN_WY
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=tor (click "Overbay's three-run double" under "more coverage")
http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php...0&query=anders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hlgn...eature=related

Strangely enough, we fired our most popular beer vendor because he didn't ask a 22 year old mystery customer for ID (fans 30 and under have to be ID'd): CTV.ca | Jays fans fight to keep the 'Beer Guy' in the game. Doesn't look like it stopped the fans from misbehaving.

Every opening day I have attended we have had stuff thrown from the stands. On Opening day 2005, fans threw the free giveaway fridge magnet Blue Jays schedules onto the field. It's embarassing.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Sep 06, 2009 07:02pm

I think you have successfully proven our point!

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 06, 2009 07:46pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 624149)
I think you have successfully proven our point!

So there is evidence of 9 incidents over how many years?

There are a minimum of 9 fights per game at a Bills game. :rolleyes:

jwwashburn Sun Sep 06, 2009 07:49pm

Right!

Buffalo is in Canada.

MrUmpire Sun Sep 06, 2009 08:53pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 624153)
Right!

Buffalo is in Canada.

Close, but might as well be.

Many of those in attendance are Canadians. And, perhaps, in accordance with the antitquated and politically incorrect Binet Classifications, some might be morons.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Sep 06, 2009 08:58pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 624176)
Close, but might as well be.

Many of those in attendance are Canadians. And, perhaps, in accordance with the antitquated and politically incorrect Binet Classifications, some might be morons.

While many others would be classified as imbeciles.

MrUmpire Sun Sep 06, 2009 09:05pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 624179)
While many others would be classified as imbeciles.

Not at a Bills game....they go to the Sabres games.

Matt Mon Sep 07, 2009 02:14am

All I have to say is, Canadian beer sucks.


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