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jwwashburn Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:20pm

Moron Canadian
 
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Ok ok....he might not be Canadian

Kevin Finnerty Sat Sep 05, 2009 01:46pm

Of course he's Canadian. A Labatt swilling effin' idiot. If he was American and it was any one of several ballparks I've visited here in America, he would have been bleeding worse than his boyfriend by the time the cops got there. There, they applaud!

What a jerk-off.

Rich Sat Sep 05, 2009 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624030)
Of course he's Canadian. A Labatt swilling effin' idiot. If he was American and it was any one of several ballparks I've visited here in America, he would have been bleeding worse than his boyfriend by the time the cops got there. There, they applaud!

What a jerk-off.

Why *was* the guy's nose bleeding, anyway? Did the foul ball hit him?

outathm Sat Sep 05, 2009 03:34pm

Isn't this post title redundant? :):confused:

jwwashburn Sat Sep 05, 2009 03:39pm

http://www.youhoser.com/pics/mug.jpg

Howzitgoineh?

Hock9 Sat Sep 05, 2009 03:49pm

Moronic thing to do
 
Stupid thing to do, for the reasons cited by the announcers.

Having said that, there are 10 times the number of people in the US than in Canada.

Therefore, 10 times the number of morons, 10 times the number of geniuses, 10 times the number of great guys, 10 times the number of losers, you get the idea.

Hey Hoser, how's it goin', eh?

jwwashburn Sat Sep 05, 2009 03:56pm

IF you assume that there is the same RATIO of morons to non-morons in the Great White North as there is in the USA.

constable Sat Sep 05, 2009 04:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624030)
Of course he's Canadian. A Labatt swilling effin' idiot. If he was American and it was any one of several ballparks I've visited here in America, he would have been bleeding worse than his boyfriend by the time the cops got there. There, they applaud!

What a jerk-off.

So if this occurs in the other 29 MLB parks do we title the thread "Moron American?"

I agree the it was a bone head move to throw a foul ball like that back but the title should have been " Moron fan " etc.

jwwashburn Sat Sep 05, 2009 04:51pm

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 624043)
So if this occurs in the other 29 MLB parks do we title the thread "Moron American?"

I agree the it was a bone head move to throw a foul ball like that back but the title should have been " Moron fan " etc.

I dunno what the title would have been. I am 41 and I have never seen a Moron American do this.

LDUB Sat Sep 05, 2009 05:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624030)
Of course he's Canadian. A Labatt swilling effin' idiot. If he was American and it was any one of several ballparks I've visited here in America, he would have been bleeding worse than his boyfriend by the time the cops got there. There, they applaud!

What a jerk-off.

Yep, in the US if someone throws something the players make them bleed before the cops get there.

YouTube - Indiana Pacers Vs. Detroit Pistons MAJOR FIGHT

jwwashburn Sat Sep 05, 2009 05:17pm

That is the NBA and Detroit...not sure that counts as the USA.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Sep 05, 2009 05:49pm

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 624043)
So if this occurs in the other 29 MLB parks do we title the thread "Moron American?"

I agree the it was a bone head move to throw a foul ball like that back but the title should have been " Moron fan " etc.

You have to admit you have a much higher percentage of morons per capita in Canada.:p

Kevin Finnerty Sat Sep 05, 2009 09:33pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 624039)
IF you assume that there is the same RATIO of morons to non-morons in the Great White North as there is in the USA.

The percentage of morons at a Canadian ballpark is drastically higher than at an American ballpark. General society is another study.

Quote:

Originally Posted by constable (Post 624043)
So if this occurs in the other 29 MLB parks do we title the thread "Moron American?"

I agree the it was a bone head move to throw a foul ball like that back but the title should have been " Moron fan " etc.

I just piled on because it's baseball and Canadian baseball fans are ... well, they're not as smart about baseball as our fans. That's been well-established. Perhaps the thread could be titled: Typically moronic Canadian baseball fan.

Kevin Finnerty Sat Sep 05, 2009 09:37pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 624048)
Yep, in the US if someone throws something the players make them bleed before the cops get there.

YouTube - Indiana Pacers Vs. Detroit Pistons MAJOR FIGHT

Perhaps people without a sense of humor should stay away from this thread.

If you want to take THIS seriously, then you REALLY need some help getting a grip---the kind of help that can't be found at an umpiring forum.

TussAgee11 Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:17pm

How is this any different from a bleacher creature at Wrigley?

C'mon, is it really that big of a deal?

SanDiegoSteve Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11 (Post 624068)
How is this any different from a bleacher creature at Wrigley?

C'mon, is it really that big of a deal?

Yes, it's different. At Wrigley, the moron fans throw back home run balls, and is a tradition. The outfielders know the ball is coming, as they are the Cubs' outfielders, and therefore know the mentality of their fans.

In the Toronto situation, the guy threw a foul ball back into the field and could have injured someone. Nobody is expecting (but now maybe they should) a foul ball to be thrown back onto the field.

So, believe it or not, it makes the Toronto moron more of a moron than the Chicago moron.;)

Kevin Finnerty Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:17am

Candlestick Park, 1989, Dodgers vs. Giants.

Late in the game (which means the moron fan in this story had plenty of time to get plowed), a ball is fouled about 20 rows behind the plate. This moron--who was a lot like the moron in Toronto (pronounced Tronno)--picked up the ball, with a beer cup in his off hand just like the other moron, and after a brief pause, he threw the ball right between Rick Dempsey and the lefty batter, Brett Butler. Butler broke into a trot away from the plate, and Dempsey turned around with a fighter's look in his eyes. It cleared Dempsey's right ear by less than a foot, and it was a shocker to everybody, except Fernando, who just walked up and picked it up like he was fielding a grounder.

Well, five guys landed on this idiot and when the cops rushed in (Candlestick had armed, uniformed cops), they actually had to work to get the group to stop mauling the guy. They literally dragged this bleeding, semi-conscious, handcuffed drunk all the way up the stairs. I watched his feet slap the top of each step as they dragged him away.

Moronic Canadian fan behavior is always much less surprising.

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 06, 2009 08:26am

Holy bashing on Canadians.

TussAgee11 Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:09am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 624073)
Yes, it's different. At Wrigley, the moron fans throw back home run balls, and is a tradition. The outfielders know the ball is coming, as they are the Cubs' outfielders, and therefore know the mentality of their fans.

In the Toronto situation, the guy threw a foul ball back into the field and could have injured someone. Nobody is expecting (but now maybe they should) a foul ball to be thrown back onto the field.

So, believe it or not, it makes the Toronto moron more of a moron than the Chicago moron.;)

Listen, the guy should be tossed as he violated the terms of his ticket. However...

Are Wrigley outfielders standing there watching, waiting for the ball to come back in? I don't believe they always are. A guy with his back turned (such as OF) who gets hit in the occipital lobe, dead.

I just think there are bigger fish to fry when talking about fan behavior. Similarly, if you want to rip on Canadians, there are alot better ways to do it :rolleyes::p;)

LDUB Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:29am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624075)
Well, five guys landed on this idiot and when the cops rushed in (Candlestick had armed, uniformed cops), they actually had to work to get the group to stop mauling the guy. They literally dragged this bleeding, semi-conscious, handcuffed drunk all the way up the stairs. I watched his feet slap the top of each step as they dragged him away.

Moronic Canadian fan behavior is always much less surprising.

So how much time did those 5 guys spend in jail and how much money did they end up having to pay? Seems like they are pretty big morons themselves.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11 (Post 624104)

Are Wrigley outfielders standing there watching, waiting for the ball to come back in? I don't believe they always are. A guy with his back turned (such as OF) who gets hit in the occipital lobe, dead.

Yes, the Cubs outfielders are hip to the fact that ALL home run balls by the opposition are ALWAYS going to be thrown back in due to peer pressure to do so. And I've never seen a Cub fan throw a ball anywhere close to a fielder who wasn't looking.

Forest Ump Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:48pm

If you play it back to when the dude throws the ball, you can see his follow through conks his buddy in the nose. His buddy leans over and says, "Hey hoser, you just bonked me in the nose."

cc6 Sun Sep 06, 2009 05:25pm

It seems like disruptive fan behaviour at Blue Jays games is not penalized very heavily by criminal prosecution. This is the first time I have actually seen them bust somebody for throwing stuff. I'm not familiar with fan behaviour in the states, but is it common for MLB parks in America to display behaviour such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=299sM...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rUdZVjE7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co4wW...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFBa...eature=related
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=tor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALkCcgIN_WY
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=tor (click "Overbay's three-run double" under "more coverage")
http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php...0&query=anders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hlgn...eature=related

Strangely enough, we fired our most popular beer vendor because he didn't ask a 22 year old mystery customer for ID (fans 30 and under have to be ID'd): CTV.ca | Jays fans fight to keep the 'Beer Guy' in the game. Doesn't look like it stopped the fans from misbehaving.

Every opening day I have attended we have had stuff thrown from the stands. On Opening day 2005, fans threw the free giveaway fridge magnet Blue Jays schedules onto the field. It's embarassing.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Sep 06, 2009 07:02pm

I think you have successfully proven our point!

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 06, 2009 07:46pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 624149)
I think you have successfully proven our point!

So there is evidence of 9 incidents over how many years?

There are a minimum of 9 fights per game at a Bills game. :rolleyes:

jwwashburn Sun Sep 06, 2009 07:49pm

Right!

Buffalo is in Canada.

MrUmpire Sun Sep 06, 2009 08:53pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 624153)
Right!

Buffalo is in Canada.

Close, but might as well be.

Many of those in attendance are Canadians. And, perhaps, in accordance with the antitquated and politically incorrect Binet Classifications, some might be morons.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Sep 06, 2009 08:58pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 624176)
Close, but might as well be.

Many of those in attendance are Canadians. And, perhaps, in accordance with the antitquated and politically incorrect Binet Classifications, some might be morons.

While many others would be classified as imbeciles.

MrUmpire Sun Sep 06, 2009 09:05pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 624179)
While many others would be classified as imbeciles.

Not at a Bills game....they go to the Sabres games.

Matt Mon Sep 07, 2009 02:14am

All I have to say is, Canadian beer sucks.

MrUmpire Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:22am

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 624217)
All I have to say is, Canadian beer sucks.

Now we've gone too far.

Sure, just as with US beer, some Canadian beer isn't so good, but there are some damn fine Canadian brews that I'd take over any "commercial" label in the US.

Kevin Finnerty Mon Sep 07, 2009 03:35pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 624105)
So how much time did those 5 guys spend in jail and how much money did they end up having to pay? Seems like they are pretty big morons themselves.

Once again, I detail an event, and you turn it into some kind of judgment of something or someone. Follow closely now:

It is an account of an incident that is indicative of how such an offender is sometimes handled. I have stated no opinion about whether it's smart, stupid, right, wrong, good or bad.

Do you live in the real world? Do you understand crime and punishment, and more importantly, big-city crime and punishment?

Why would you risk seeming this naive to a public forum by asking this kind of question?

I don't know whether to laugh out loud or roll my eyes.

LDUB Mon Sep 07, 2009 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624289)
Once again, I detail an event, and you turn it into some kind of judgment of something or someone. Follow closely now:

It is an account of an incident that is indicative of how such an offender is sometimes handled. I have stated no opinion about whether it's smart, stupid, right, wrong, good or bad.

Do you live in the real world? Do you understand crime and punishment, and more importantly, big-city crime and punishment?

Why would you risk seeming this naive to a public forum by asking this kind of question?

I don't know whether to laugh out loud or roll my eyes.

And where exactly did I say that you supported this beating? I must have missed that. Please don't be so quick to assume that every disagreement is a personal attack and to respond in kind.

Kevin Finnerty Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:13pm

You are another person who is far too quick to use the word attack. Can't you find another word in this vast and magnificent language to describe my reaction to your latest demonstration of obtuseness? When I feel "attacked," you'll know it.

I feel differed with. That's a long way from "attacked." Look up attack.

tibear Tue Sep 08, 2009 08:53am

All I can say is, Canadians have never flown the American flag upside down as the Americans did one of the past All-Star games!! :)

SanDiegoSteve Tue Sep 08, 2009 09:39am

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Originally Posted by tibear (Post 624404)
All I can say is, Canadians have never flown the American flag upside down as the Americans did one of the past All-Star games!! :)

That was so you drunken Canucks could see the flag right-side up while layed out on the floor!:)

Jay R Tue Sep 08, 2009 05:30pm

Click here to see intelligent Americans

YouTube - Why we believe Americans are stupid.

tibear Wed Sep 09, 2009 07:39pm

Check out a video made a couple of years ago with congressman and even Al Gore who don't know a lick about Canada!!
YouTube - Rick Mercer - Talking To Americans
Here's another one, some of which is with Harvard students and professors, talking about rediculous items and Americans don't even know the announcer is making fun of them:
YouTube - Talking to Americans (2001) [Part 2/5]

SanDiegoSteve Wed Sep 09, 2009 07:58pm

He don't?:rolleyes:

constable Thu Sep 10, 2009 03:29am

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Originally Posted by tibear (Post 624404)
All I can say is, Canadians have never flown the American flag upside down as the Americans did one of the past All-Star games!! :)


It was a World Series. 1992.

I bet there are bone heads in every stadium, in every sport, and of every nationality.

I can't find the clip but what about where the fan through the bottle of beer at Milton Bradley( I believe in LA). Was he a moronic American?

I still think the title should just be "moron fan"

Where he's from, or where you think he may be from has no bearing on this matter.

Welpe Thu Sep 10, 2009 08:48am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624075)
Candlestick had armed, uniformed cops

Just your standard SFPD cops working overtime security details. Do you not have LAPD at Chavez Ravine?

Kevin Finnerty Thu Sep 10, 2009 09:09am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 624726)
Just your standard SFPD cops working overtime security details. Do you not have LAPD at Chavez Ravine?

That happened way back in 1989, and not until recent years did you ever see a armed, uniformed cop at Dodger Stadium. They had these plainclothes off-duty guys that were fairly easy to pick out (they were the guys with short hair and baggy camp shirts to hide their pieces).

Peter O'Malley didn't go for the uniformed cop look.

gordon30307 Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:03am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624728)
That happened way back in 1989, and not until recent years did you ever see a armed, uniformed cop at Dodger Stadium. They had these plainclothes off-duty guys that were fairly easy to pick out (they were the guys with short hair and baggy camp shirts to hide their pieces).

Peter O'Malley didn't go for the uniformed cop look.

What does this have to do with umpiring?

Kevin Finnerty Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:16am

When people share thoughts about baseball, there's a chance that it may not be about umpiring in particular.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:28am

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 624710)
It was a World Series. 1992.

I bet there are bone heads in every stadium, in every sport, and of every nationality.

I can't find the clip but what about where the fan through the bottle of beer at Milton Bradley( I believe in LA). Was he a moronic American?

I still think the title should just be "moron fan"

Where he's from, or where you think he may be from has no bearing on this matter.

We're talking about and joking about Canadians in a baseball setting. That's what is being joked about. That's all! And it's joking, and nothing more.

Canada came into baseball relatively late, and the general tone of the fan participation and behavior is rather unsophisticated. So take it and accept it. It's the way it is.

My only way to relate is when I hear those generalities about Californians. And I can't say that I care in the least when I hear those ignorant jokes and statements. I just laugh it off. ... Much like these fellow Southern Californians are laughing it off:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...lpaper_215.jpg

SanDiegoSteve Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:38am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624742)
My only way to relate is when I hear those generalities about Californians. And I can't say that I care in the least when I hear those ignorant jokes and statements. I just laugh it off. ... Much like these fellow Southern Californians are laughing it off:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...lpaper_215.jpg

I told you to stop posting pictures of my harem;)

Welpe Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:35am

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Originally Posted by gordon30307 (Post 624739)
What does this have to do with umpiring?

About as much as the rest of this thread however:

1) It's about Candlestick park and the Giants (cheer) and Dodgers (hiss).

2) Law enforcement is a subject I'm interested in.

Kevin, you mean all of you in the LA area don't drive convertibles, have three super model girlfriends and routinely attend parties in the Hollywood Hills? I'm shocked! :eek:

Kevin Finnerty Thu Sep 10, 2009 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 624750)
About as much as the rest of this thread however:

1) It's about Candlestick park and the Giants (cheer) and Dodgers (hiss).

2) Law enforcement is a subject I'm interested in.

Kevin, you mean all of you in the LA area don't drive convertibles, have three super model girlfriends and routinely attend parties in the Hollywood Hills? I'm shocked! :eek:

I routinely did all those things at one point or another, except, in my case, it was three super girlfriends ... supermodels, no. (And, only one at a time, too.) You can also throw in motorcycle cruises up Pacific Coast Highway. Three of my addresses in life were Hollywood[Hills, actually], Manhattan Beach and Brentwood (still have an office there); but now it's different. Much different.

These two simple words changed everything forever: I do.

SethPDX Thu Sep 10, 2009 03:08pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624742)

Sometimes threads get better when they stop being about umpiring. :)


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