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LDUB Fri Sep 11, 2009 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624867)
... :confused: ... Will what, gouge your peers?

You can call it whatever you want. I just put it up for auction and people can pay as much as they are willing to for the product. This mask auction is no different that the Riddell Power protectors which sell for $400; they are considered cool and it is worth spending a lot of money to look cool to the buyer.

kylejt Fri Sep 11, 2009 02:17pm

Just an aside: Why did you create new user name to do this?

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 03:48pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 624898)
You can call it whatever you want. I just put it up for auction and people can pay as much as they are willing to for the product.

WOW!

My opinion just got reinforced better than the Bay Bridge.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 03:50pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 624905)
Just an aside: Why did you create new user name to do this?

Hey Kyle,

Do you use shirts with the State Assn. patch?

kylejt Fri Sep 11, 2009 03:55pm

Nope, just a lowly LL scrub right now.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 04:34pm

All righty then.

I'll find a recipient at the H.S. meeting. Thanks, man.

UmpTTS43 Fri Sep 11, 2009 07:00pm

Call me silly, but if I had a used piece of equipment that could get me $500-$1000 I would do it in a heart beat, "brother" or not. Don't get me wrong, I've discounted a lot of my old gear for guys needing it, but if someone is going to place that high a value on it, let the bidding begin. I can see the arguement for putting it on here vs ebay with the protections and all, but save me the rightiousness and silly indignation.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:45pm

Oh, yeah ... it's "righteousness and silly indignation."

Okay. So, if they're your beliefs or convictions, then they're valid.

I see.

Are you only fair-minded when you umpire?

LDUB Sat Sep 12, 2009 01:09am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624939)
Oh, yeah ... it's "righteousness and silly indignation."

Okay. So, if they're your beliefs or convictions, then they're valid.

I see.

Are you only fair-minded when you umpire?

The first item ever sold on eBay was a broken laser pointer. To me that seems like something to throw away. But to someone who collects broken laser pointers it could be the one item needed to complete his set. So to him the laser pointer has much more value than it does to me.

To me it seems like umpgdubs3 was very fair with his selling of the mask. This is a luxury item which has a high demand and a low supply. It isn't at all like selling .5 liter bottles of water for $40 after a hurricane when there is no drinking water. He is selling the mask at the normal price that the mask usually sells for in the US. If he was being unfair he would have lied and said that they usually sold for much more than they really did.

bob jenkins Sat Sep 12, 2009 07:07am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624939)
Oh, yeah ... it's "righteousness and silly indignation."

Okay. So, if they're your beliefs or convictions, then they're valid.

I see.

Are you only fair-minded when you umpire?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Drop it.

Kevin Finnerty Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:14am

Then I'm not fair-minded? Because I don't believe in gouging a peer.

I see. I'm just trying to learn how to understand all this new stuff.

SAump Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:47pm

Open for starting bid of $100: Clean Mizuno Mask
 
Used hollow tube light weight, navy blue Mizuno Mask with black Mizuno harness and famous Mizuno "golden-M" brand name patched onto the front of the chin pad velcro strap and one famous Mizuno "golden-M" stitched onto the harness. One of the first lightweight masks from Mizuno to hit the market, if not the first to hit the market. Sold as is.

I paid $15 each for a group of ten masks available ten years ago when the MSRP was $49.99 or 59.99 each {Wilson brand also available}. Its probably worth $100 to someone willing to pay that much for a Japanese made/brand mask made 10 years ago. A value addition to any mask collection. You can't go "skimp" on protection.

Buy it now: $200, free shipping and I'll throw in soft velvet cloth, drawstring storage bag to hold and protect personal valuables {glasses, watch, wallet, keys, etc.} when mask is in use. Bag may double as soft polishing cloth.

Serious offers only!

Adam Sat Sep 12, 2009 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624962)
Then I'm not fair-minded? Because I don't believe in gouging a peer.

I see. I'm just trying to learn how to understand all this new stuff.

I have to ask, how is it gouging to sell something for what the market will bear? Is it gouging to sell my used car to a college kid for $1000, assuming that's what the market value is?

How do you define gouging?

Ump153 Sat Sep 12, 2009 02:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 624979)
How do you define gouging?

I was going to dig out my notes from an Econ class, but I found this first. This is very close to what they taught at Oregon:


During and immediately after crises such as natural disasters, various parties will claim that someone is price gouging. What is price gouging, anyway? How do professional economists define it?

The answer is that there is no objective definition. Economists--who specialize in price theory and the behavior of markets and can study these things ad nauseum--have no definition for it, either. In fact, economists have avoided the term as if it were a social disease. A review of all the microeconomics textbooks on Neutral Source's bookshelf reveals that none have as much as an index entry.

A skeptic might retort that this illustrates the real-world irrelevance of economics. Neutral Source believes otherwise. Rather, the concept of price gouging is irrelevant to economics.

Wikipedia defines price gouging as:

a term of variable, but nearly always pejorative, meaning, referring to a seller's asking a price that is much higher than what is seen as 'fair' under the circumstances. In precise, legal usage, it is the name of a felony that obtains in some of the United States only during civil emergencies. In less precise usage, it can refer either to prices obtained by practices inconsistent with a competitive free market, or to windfall profits. In colloquial usage, it means simply that the speaker thinks the price too high, and it often degenerates into a term of demagoguery. Non-pejorative uses are generally in reaction to what the writer believes is an unjustified restraint on the market.

bob jenkins Sat Sep 12, 2009 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624962)
Then I'm not fair-minded? Because I don't believe in gouging a peer.

I see. I'm just trying to learn how to understand all this new stuff.

I meant nothing about your opinion, which you are entitled to have and to express, about "price gouging."

Only about "So, if they're your beliefs or convictions, then they're valid."

More than once (this thread and the recent "do you wear a cup on the bases?" thread for example) you've seemd to imply that only your belief and conviction were valid. And, not only have you expressed your belief (agian, you're allowed to do so), you've repeated it over and over and included some disparaging remarks about others in doing so. That's the activity I'm asking you (and others) to stop.


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