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turnit Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:03am

Pretty sure I know GDubs, pretty sure he's legit, pretty sure I wouldn't buy the mask.

MrUmpire Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:19pm

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Originally Posted by turnit (Post 624103)
Pretty sure I know GDubs, pretty sure he's legit, pretty sure I wouldn't buy the mask.

If you know gdubs, then you know how to get the same mask for a little more than a fourth of his "starting bid."

INUmp Mon Sep 07, 2009 01:26am

anyone that spent 1,000 dollars on this mask is probably not real bright.

I bought mine for 100 US dollars in 2005 and gave it to a buddy two years ago to start using.

idk if this is legit or not, but it's a lot of money to just sent to someone random. Also odd that, if I recall correctly "gdubbs" used to post strictly in all caps on the amlu and now has found grammar and lower case typing as well

Kevin Finnerty Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:32pm

I generally give my extra uniforms and gear to other umpires, or in one case, I put together a package of my original gear to get a guy started in umpiring. If I ever did sell something, I would sell it at something of a loss, knowing that I got some good use out of it, which is worth something.

So I can't relate to gouging a fellow umpire in some bidding war that is established by some bizarre story of a "friend," who sold his mask for $1150. Good grief.

umpgdubs3 Thu Sep 10, 2009 09:12pm

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR BIDS.... MASK HAS SOLD AND WILL NOW HAVE A NEW FACE YELLING BEHIND IT..... SORRY IT NEVER MADE IT TO E BAY.


INUmp
CAPS ARE FOR YOU SHOOTER...

MrUmpire Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:20pm

There's a sucker born every minute.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:55pm

... A quote that has always been falsely attributed to P.T. Barnum, a far too dignified fellow to have uttered it.

LDUB Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:58pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624368)
If I ever did sell something, I would sell it at something of a loss, knowing that I got some good use out of it, which is worth something.

Why would you sell it at a loss when there are people willing to pay more for it? The mask is cool and some people are willing to pay a lot of money for it.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:17am

Because I have self-respect, respect for my peers and respect for this craft. I'm both lucky and thankful that I was raised better than to gouge my peers. You go ahead and operate that way, and I'll be dignified and honorable, instead.

I give gear (and uniforms) away, or sell it at a loss if I used it only slightly. I'm a lot more comfortable with that than I would be taking advantage of another umpire.

LDUB Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:44am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624836)
Because I have self-respect, respect for my peers and respect for this craft. I'm both lucky and thankful that I was raised better than to gouge my peers. You go ahead and operate that way, and I'll be dignified and honorable, instead.

Me and the other 125 million people who use eBay will.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:49am

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 624865)
Me and the other 125 million people who use eBay will.

... :confused: ... Will what, gouge your peers?

Rufus Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:04am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624826)
... A quote that has always been falsely attributed to P.T. Barnum, a far too dignified fellow to have uttered it.

In my best Dana-Carvey-impersonating-Johnny-Carson voice:

I did not know that!

Wikipedia backs it up though. Interesting as growing up I was a fan of the musical Barnum and that's a neat song from it.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled forum.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:16am

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 624870)
In my best Dana-Carvey-impersonating-Johnny-Carson voice:

I did not know that!

Wikipedia backs it up though. Interesting as growing up I was a fan of the musical Barnum and that's a neat song from it.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled forum.

Thanks for evoking both Johnny and Dana Carvey---two major favorites of mine. Two thumbs up!

bob jenkins Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:55am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624867)
... :confused: ... Will what, gouge your peers?


It's not gouging to sell something for what the market will bear.

It's also "worth" something to the seller to sell it for a lower price to help out someone. That "worth" varies by person and is generally higher if the buyer is in the same association and lower if it's a stranger on the internet.

You guys are talking past each other just because of your past history.

And, in the sense that you wanted me to moderate the forum, from where I stand most of the blame on this thread falls on you, Kevin.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 01:14pm

Hmmm ... okay.

I've just never been one to walk away when someone is being picked on, and I seldom back down when I'm having my words, thoughts and intentions picked apart or twisted. I started out objecting only mildly to this guy's selling of this mask, but the more I read it, the more insulting it became. And I was far from alone. So I weighed in a little heavier, and it was disputed, and I answered. Sorry it got silly.

I suppose this thread is one thing, but this history involves a consistent pattern of disputes that I have not had a hand in starting.


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