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Kevin Finnerty Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:56pm

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Originally Posted by JimKirk (Post 624811)
No. I should have been more clear about what kind of rating. You are right that looser is better. Thanks for asking this question to clarify. I may go ahead and insert that in if I can edit that post.

The lower rating I was referring to is what is called a severity rating which derives from the force the head (or fake one) takes behind the mask. So the lower the severity rating, the less force and the better. My apologies for not being clear.

Jim Kirk
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Ump-Attire.com

So it's like when you have to explain to a woman why a lower ERA is better.

tballump Fri Sep 11, 2009 01:26am

KF

Would wearing a helmet turned backwards like the catcher help with any of this. They use to wear hats turned backwards but now wear those helmets turned backwards.

briancurtin Fri Sep 11, 2009 08:37am

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Originally Posted by tballump (Post 624841)
KF

Would wearing a helmet turned backwards like the catcher help with any of this. They use to wear hats turned backwards but now wear those helmets turned backwards.

I'm not KF, but I'd say the answer is "possibly", but only slightly because a catcher's skull cap only offers a very, very thin amount of padding.

An umpire should not wear one. Especially not backwards.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:47am

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Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 624851)
I'm not KF, but I'd say the answer is "possibly", but only slightly because a catcher's skull cap only offers a very, very thin amount of padding.

An umpire should not wear one. Especially not backwards.

I do know an umpire brother who wears one of those hard shell liners in his cap. (I can't be "that guy.")

The catcher's helmet: One of the first guys to wear one was Johnny Bench. (Tom Haller wore a kind of bowl without a brim, like Bob Boone's, but Bench's was a batting helmet turned around.) In 1988, I heard Rick Dempsey and Mike Scioscia talking about head protection behind the plate. Gary Carter became part of the conversation, and he pointed out that the flap on the helmet would protect the back of his neck and skull on a broken bat or backswing and that's why he wears it. Dempsey, who only wore a cap under his mask like the early days guys reacted like you'd expect an Old School 20-year veteran to react, citing how he'd done it that way forever and he's not changing. Then he kidded Carter about wearing it to copy Johnny Bench. Scioscia always wore a helmet like Carter's and Bench's, but he often threw it off for those collisions at the plate that became his trademark. He didn't say anything when these two veterans were going at it.

But after Carter said that, I paid more attention to the kind of blow that a catcher takes, where head protection is helpful, and it's almost always to protect from a bat. I saw Mike Piazza get nailed by Gary Sheffield on a backswing in the area where the helmet meets the temple. What kind of damage would that have done if Piazza hadn't worn a helmet?

I can't imagine catching without a bucket nowadays, and I always give serious thought to wearing one as an umpire when I do wood bat leagues. (I still haven't crossed over.)


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