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zm1283 Fri Aug 14, 2009 08:28pm

Foul tip, catch?
 
Batter nicks a ball that hits F2's glove, hits F2's helmet, and deflects up into the air. F2 catches the ball before it hits the ground.

Foul tip or a catch?

johnnyg08 Fri Aug 14, 2009 08:59pm

foul ball. foul tip and catch would be the same thing.

Rich Ives Fri Aug 14, 2009 09:14pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 620515)
foul ball. foul tip and catch would be the same thing.

Nope. He's asking if it's a foul tip or a caught foul ball thus an out.

Rich Ives Fri Aug 14, 2009 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 620512)
Batter nicks a ball that hits F2's glove, hits F2's helmet, and deflects up into the air. F2 catches the ball before it hits the ground.

Foul tip or a catch?

Foul tip - strike.

zm1283 Fri Aug 14, 2009 09:29pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 620520)
Nope. He's asking if it's a foul tip or a caught foul ball thus an out.

Yes, that is what I was asking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 620521)
Foul tip - strike.

Thanks. That's what I thought but I wanted to make sure.

MrUmpire Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 620515)
foul ball.

Nope. Since it went direct to the catcher's mitt, and was caught before hitting the ground or other object, it's still live and a foul tip.

johnnyg08 Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:22pm

The batter's helmet doesn't qualify as another object?

SanDiegoSteve Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:53pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 620529)
The batter's helmet doesn't qualify as another object?

It can hit a variety of objects as long as the ball is caught if these two things happen:

1) sharp and direct and hits glove before anything else.

2) ball never hits the ground.

Very similar to "magic bullet" theory in Kennedy Assassination.:)

MrUmpire Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:04pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 620529)
The batter's helmet doesn't qualify as another object?

Nope. Another object would be like the back stop, dugout, rock, etc.

luvthegame Sat Aug 15, 2009 03:33am

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 620529)
The batter's helmet doesn't qualify as another object?

The OP said it hit F2's helmet?? Not batters helmet?

bob jenkins Sat Aug 15, 2009 07:03am

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Originally Posted by luvthegame (Post 620549)
The OP said it hit F2's helmet?? Not batters helmet?


Right -- so it's a foul tip.

If it had hit the batter's helmet, or the umpire's helmet, it would be a foul ball.

mbyron Sat Aug 15, 2009 07:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvthegame (Post 620549)
The OP said it hit F2's helmet?? Not batters helmet?

Correct about the OP. If the ball deflects off F2's mitt and hits the batter, it's a foul ball.

johnnyg08 Sat Aug 15, 2009 09:04am

Ah...I misread the OP...thanks fellas....the ball hitting off of the batter and still being live was bothering me...I gotta get better reading glasses! Happy Saturday!

jicecone Sat Aug 15, 2009 09:50am

As long as it dosen't hit the on deck batters bat, then we have a 20 page thread, and it's still foul. Maybe???????? Or is it interference??????


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