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bucblue Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:02pm

What about the safe, out, out, call at first last night in the Braves/Marlins game. Hermida hit a single to left, ball back to SS, who looked and fired a shot to 1B. Hermida was asleep, 1b coach asleep, and Hohn asleep as the tag was applied before Hermida got back. Hohn game a great safe sign, then out, then out again. Double play?

cc6 Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:38pm

In the second inning of the Blue Jays-Mariners game, Bill Welke called a Mariner runner safe at first even though they clearly tagged the runner AND he went off the baseline to avoid the tag. The runner before him reached on a hit by pitch that never actually hit him. I know questionable calls happen, but it was frustrating watching this in what could have been Doc Halladay's last start as a Blue Jay. Guess it happens though:). It still seems like a travesty that there are MLB umpires like Bucknor and now apparently Hohn, who probably aren't as good as some AAA umpires but who keep their spot just because they got there first.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:42pm

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 617838)
I know questionable calls happen, but it was frustrating watching this in what could have been Doc Halladay's last start as a Blue Jay.

Well, now you don't have to worry about that anymore, since Roy ain't going anywhere.

cc6 Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:48pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 617840)
Well, now you don't have to worry about that anymore, since Roy ain't going anywhere.

Our GM JP Ricciardi set the Roy Halladay trading deadline at July 28th, but it's now a day later and some trade rumours continue. It's funny that we are paying our closer something like $15 million for this year and 2010 while he plays for the Chicago Cubs minor league organization, yet we can't keep the best pitcher in the world. I wouldn't mind seeing Doc and Timmy as a 1-2 combo though.

TussAgee11 Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:51pm

UMPIRE REVOLUTION!

Seriously, these guys are the best of the best.

I was wondering if anybody wanted to comment on how baseball officials have a much different style because baseball is such a different game than basketball, baseball, football? Does anyone think that style of baseball at the MLB level compared to MiLB, NCAA, or FED is a bit more laid back, and as a result, umpires behave much differently?

And if so, wouldn't that mean that an experienced amateur ball official can't really understand what umpiring in MLB is like, and therefore, aren't qualified to critique style and demeanor? The calls are the calls, but it seems lots of criticism from this forum is centered around ways in which things are dealt with, appearance, or mechanics.

jwwashburn Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:32pm

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Originally Posted by bucblue (Post 617836)
What about the safe, out, out, call at first last night in the Braves/Marlins game. Hermida hit a single to left, ball back to SS, who looked and fired a shot to 1B. Hermida was asleep, 1b coach asleep, and Hohn asleep as the tag was applied before Hermida got back. Hohn game a great safe sign, then out, then out again. Double play?

WOW! Very Very awful.

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Remarkably bad. My 6 year old daughter has a better hammer than that.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6931471_n.jpg

Oy Vey.

Kevin Finnerty Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:43pm

Thanks, Hohn.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:24am

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11 (Post 617844)
UMPIRE REVOLUTION!

Seriously, these guys are the best of the best.

And if so, wouldn't that mean that an experienced amateur ball official can't really understand what umpiring in MLB is like, and therefore, aren't qualified to critique style and demeanor? The calls are the calls, but it seems lots of criticism from this forum is centered around ways in which things are dealt with, appearance, or mechanics.

What a crock.:(

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:27am

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 617842)
It's funny that we are paying our closer something like $15 million for this year and 2010 while he plays for the Chicago Cubs minor league organization, yet we can't keep the best pitcher in the world.

Sorry, but the best pitchers in the world right now are Mark Buehrle and Tim Lincecum, hands down.

zm1283 Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:31am

In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.

Bishopcolle Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:28am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 617868)
In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.

I agree with this...We all know he SHOULD have hesitated, made one call on one play, but he IS human, and we have ALL made that type of mistake.....

jwwashburn Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 617868)
In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.

Who knows why he made a safe call and then two of the worst hammers in the history of baseball but, that explanation seems quite far fetched. It was one sweep tag.

Nice Bracelet, though.

Rich Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 617868)
In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.

And this is a freaking weird play that probably caught him a bit by surprise. You can find a lot wrong with Hohn without trying to stretch something like this.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Jul 30, 2009 09:28am

Be honest, Rich ... Have you ever made two calls on a play that was that quick?

jwwashburn Thu Jul 30, 2009 09:43am

I do not recall ever seeing a professional umpire look this bad.

I do not recall the last time I saw a HS umpire look this bad.

Again, it is not just the safe/out/out call but the amateur hammer. Is that his normal hammer? Add that to the ridiculous bracelet and you have one unprofessional umpire.


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