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SanDiegoSteve Sun Jul 26, 2009 03:15pm

Jim Wolf's Black Shirt
 
Watching the Phillies/Cardinals on FOX yesterday. I noticed that Jim Wolf, the PU, was wearing a really nice looking, short sleeve black uniform shirt that was different in that it featured a half-zip instead of buttons, and had no stripes on the collar or sleeves. Does anyone know who makes this shirt and more importantly, where can you get them? I think it looks really sharp, much sharper than the black with white stripes does.

mrm21711 Sun Jul 26, 2009 04:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 616939)
Watching the Phillies/Cardinals on FOX yesterday. I noticed that Jim Wolf, the PU, was wearing a really nice looking, short sleeve black uniform shirt that was different in that it featured a half-zip instead of buttons, and had no stripes on the collar or sleeves. Does anyone know who makes this shirt and more importantly, where can you get them? I think it looks really sharp, much sharper than the black with white stripes does.

Its not. Its their new pullover/smocks with the sleeves zipped off halfway.

Jim Wolf:
http://photos.nj.com/photos/star-led...d1037b51ba.jpg

Heres a picture of them with the sleeves not removed:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...ty8Dq/340x.jpg

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jul 26, 2009 04:07pm

Thanks. They look pretty good tucked in and without the long sleeves. They still look hideous untucked and with long sleeves.

zm1283 Sun Jul 26, 2009 04:52pm

Not a fan of them on the plate guy without the sleeves. They look okay on the bases, sleeves or not.

Kevin Finnerty Sun Jul 26, 2009 08:16pm

I think that Wolf is the first guy I have ever seen that makes it look halfway cool. I'm with Steve on this one.

Untucked, it looks like something I wear to pitch batting practice.

cc6 Sun Jul 26, 2009 09:56pm

The only person I have seen wear a zip up shirt is this umpire:

YouTube - How to Be a Baseball Umpire : Going Over Ground Rules as a Baseball Umpire

briancurtin Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 617005)
The only person I have seen wear a zip up shirt is this umpire:

YouTube - How to Be a Baseball Umpire : Going Over Ground Rules as a Baseball Umpire

When the minor leagues were still supplied by +POS, they wore the zip up shirts. At least the ones I saw.

kylejt Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:43am

Neat. Short sleeved jackets. What's next? Long sleeved cream shirts?

Oh yeah.
http://www.theofficialschoice.com/Pr...eamLSLarge.jpg

briancurtin Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:47am

I think I'm going to get some base pants tailored into shorts.

Should be a good look.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 617030)
I think I'm going to get some base pants tailored into shorts.

Should be a good look.

As long as you wear them in combination with the long sleeve cream shirt pictured above.

UMP25 Mon Jul 27, 2009 01:05am

Count me as one of the few, if only, umpires who thinks those half-mock-convertible-zip up-removable-sleeve-thingies are just hideous period. The short-sleeve black shirt, long-sleeve black shirt, and jackets with the stripes on the shoulder were just fine.

I wouldn't doubt it if Dick Honig convinced MLB to use these so Dick could dream up and manufacture yet another article of uniform attire that everyone will then consider a "must buy."

:D

kylejt Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 617030)
I think I'm going to get some base pants tailored into shorts.

Should be a good look.

+POS actually made umpire shorts for a brief time. I bought a pair (eBay), and wore them once. Bad idea. I resold them the next week. At least I made money on the deal.

GA Umpire Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 617034)
Count me as one of the few, if only, umpires who thinks those half-mock-convertible-zip up-removable-sleeve-thingies are just hideous period. The short-sleeve black shirt, long-sleeve black shirt, and jackets with the stripes on the shoulder were just fine.

:D

I agree. Those things look like warmup jackets for the players. Wear the shirts or a regular pullover. Those things are amateurish,cheap looking. But why would the MLB umpires care, they are considered the top ones regardless of what they are wearing. It is the amateurs who have to appear to be more professional looking to attempt to keep the hounds at bay.

Kevin Finnerty Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:29pm

Poll: Long sleeve shirt only behind the plate or can be worn also on the bases?

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jul 27, 2009 01:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 617118)
Poll: Long sleeve shirt only behind the plate or can be worn also on the bases?

Neither. Wear a plate coat!

UMP25 Mon Jul 27, 2009 01:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 617118)
Poll: Long sleeve shirt only behind the plate or can be worn also on the bases?

Plate only!

UMP25 Mon Jul 27, 2009 01:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 617141)
Neither. Wear a plate coat!

Provided you can afford one, as many cannot.

I do like its look better, but as I said, many can't afford it.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jul 27, 2009 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 617147)
Provided you can afford one, as many cannot.

I do like its look better, but as I said, many can't afford it.

I can't afford one either, but that's my answer anyway, because I don't like the look of long sleeve shirts. But then again, I live in San Diego. If it's chilly or rainy, we use regular umpire jackets or windshirts.

Rich Mon Jul 27, 2009 01:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 617151)
I can't afford one either, but that's my answer anyway, because I don't like the look of long sleeve shirts. But then again, I live in San Diego. If it's chilly or rainy, we use regular umpire jackets or windshirts.

I have stopped wearing a jacket on the plate. I wear long sleeve shirts only (when it's cold). Cream is not a cold-weather color, so the long sleeved cream looks, well, dumb.

I'd wear a plate coat, but unfortunately neither of mine fit (they are too big). I've ALWAYS hated windbreakers on the plate and I love the long sleeves. On the bases, no. Then I wear a jacket.

That said, I'm willing to sell them to a good home. Navy size 48 Fechheimer -- bought 1997, in outstanding shape. Black size 50 Honig's - bought 2005, good shape.

If anyone has a 42/44 short.... :D

kylejt Mon Jul 27, 2009 03:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 617151)
But then again, I live in San Diego. If it's chilly or rainy, we use regular umpire jackets or windshirts.

Speak for yourself! I roll with the plate coat at least three times a year up here in Vista. Sure it's overkill, but the kids dig it.

UMP 64 Mon Jul 27, 2009 03:50pm

You tube umpire from ee6
 
:eek:This guy is great. I would like for him to do our clinic

DonInKansas Mon Jul 27, 2009 03:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 617151)
I can't afford one either, but that's my answer anyway, because I don't like the look of long sleeve shirts. But then again, I live in San Diego. If it's chilly or rainy, we use regular umpire jackets or windshirts.

75 degrees doesn't count as chilly, Steve. ;)

etn_ump Mon Jul 27, 2009 08:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 617154)
I have stopped wearing a jacket on the plate. I wear long sleeve shirts only (when it's cold). Cream is not a cold-weather color, so the long sleeved cream looks, well, dumb.

I'd wear a plate coat, but unfortunately neither of mine fit (they are too big). I've ALWAYS hated windbreakers on the plate and I love the long sleeves. On the bases, no. Then I wear a jacket.

That said, I'm willing to sell them to a good home. Navy size 48 Fechheimer -- bought 1997, in outstanding shape. Black size 50 Honig's - bought 2005, good shape.

If anyone has a 42/44 short.... :D

Prices?

DG Mon Jul 27, 2009 08:31pm

I can't recall wearing long sleeves on bases. Jacket or short sleeves is norm.

Long sleeves is standard for me when cool behind the plate, <60, add another layer when it gets colder. Jacket behind plate would go with another layer and would have to be 45 or less.

If I had a plate coat I would wear it, but alas...

zm1283 Mon Jul 27, 2009 08:59pm

If it's cool, long sleeve shirt is my first choice. If not, then a jacket, although I don't care for it as much. Never a long sleeve on the bases....always the jacket.

Tom H. Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:08pm

Umpire? Is he really ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 617005)
The only person I have seen wear a zip up shirt is this umpire:

YouTube - How to Be a Baseball Umpire : Going Over Ground Rules as a Baseball Umpire


Have watched parts of this guys vids.....but had to turn them off. Did you notice the hat turned round backwards? that is what he does before he puts on his mask.
Guess he is a "Big Dog" where he comes from.......????

Tom H. Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 617034)
Count me as one of the few, if only, umpires who thinks those half-mock-convertible-zip up-removable-sleeve-thingies are just hideous period. The short-sleeve black shirt, long-sleeve black shirt, and jackets with the stripes on the shoulder were just fine.

I wouldn't doubt it if Dick Honig convinced MLB to use these so Dick could dream up and manufacture yet another article of uniform attire that everyone will then consider a "must buy."

:D


By Crackie! I think you have hit on it!!!!

:D :( :mad:!!!

kylejt Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:19pm

Why wouldn't you wear a long sleeved shirt on the bases? I do it, when sometimes a jacket is too much.

(and don't give that @#$% about MLB guys don't do it. Think for yourself.)

mrm21711 Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 617034)
I wouldn't doubt it if Dick Honig convinced MLB to use these so Dick could dream up and manufacture yet another article of uniform attire that everyone will then consider a "must buy."

Maybe - but Majestic makes the MLB shirts & jackets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
Poll: Long sleeve shirt only behind the plate or can be worn also on the bases?

Plate - Plate Coat or Long Sleeve Shirt - No Pullover. I hate a jacket behind the plate.

Bases - Jacket or Short Sleeve Shirt - no long sleeve. No "smock" or half-zip/convertible jacket either. Ugly!

briancurtin Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrm21711 (Post 617285)
Maybe - but Majestic makes the MLB shirts & jackets.

At some point there was (maybe still is) some type of partnership between Honig's and MLB. There are two umpires I've worked with this summer who have Honig's shirts which are labeled as Honig's with the <a href="http://2008.sxsw.com/img/mktg/MLB_Authentic_240w.jpg">MLB Authentic tag</a>.

Honig's Canada was the last I saw MLB logo shirts for sale to the public.

SethPDX Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 617118)
Poll: Long sleeve shirt only behind the plate or can be worn also on the bases?

Why not? I've done it. Not that it matters to me, but I've seen a D1 crew do it. I have no problem with it.

I haven't worn a jacket on the plate since I picked up my long sleeve shirt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 617294)
At some point there was (maybe still is) some type of partnership between Honig's and MLB. There are two umpires I've worked with this summer who have Honig's shirts which are labeled as Honig's with the <a href="http://2008.sxsw.com/img/mktg/MLB_Authentic_240w.jpg">MLB Authentic tag</a>.

Honig's Canada was the last I saw MLB logo shirts for sale to the public.

There was starting in about 2000 or 2001. I have a shirt with the MLB logo on the back. The shirts and jackets MLB wears now are Majestic.

The umpires in the AAA PCL have worn Honig's since at least 2001.

mrm21711 Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 617294)
At some point there was (maybe still is) some type of partnership between Honig's and MLB. There are two umpires I've worked with this summer who have Honig's shirts which are labeled as Honig's with the <a href="http://2008.sxsw.com/img/mktg/MLB_Authentic_240w.jpg">MLB Authentic tag</a>.

Honig's Canada was the last I saw MLB logo shirts for sale to the public.

Thats true - the Honig's shirts and jackets with the MLB logos ended a while ago - maybe 5 or so years.

MiLB switched to Honig's after +POS started having trouble and finally went out of business.

Rich Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by etn_ump (Post 617264)
Prices?

I'll sell them for $100 each including shipping or best offer. The black one has #7 attached to the sleeve. Guessing it might be removable, but I'm not entirely sure.

Rich Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 617280)
Why wouldn't you wear a long sleeved shirt on the bases? I do it, when sometimes a jacket is too much.

(and don't give that @#$% about MLB guys don't do it. Think for yourself.)

I just don't like it.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 30, 2009 02:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 617209)
Speak for yourself! I roll with the plate coat at least three times a year up here in Vista. Sure it's overkill, but the kids dig it.

The one time I really needed a jacket, and didn't have one with me (read: idiot), was when I had a Julian game one May afternoon. In the morning and early afternoon I was at the beach, frolicking in the 75 degree sun-bathed sand, hitting on chicks, etc. At 1:00 PM, I left the beach, went home and cleaned up, and headed for Julian, which is about an hour's drive northeast from San Diego.

When I got there, it was 27°F , with a wind chill of 9°. It was snowing/sleeting with winds gusting to 50 MPH blowing straight in from center-field. Carl, Julian's head coach, after he got finished laughing at me for not having a jacket, loaned me one of his team jackets (a fuschia/gold combo), and I went to work behind the plate.:o

Carl continued to remind me of that day for the next 15 years whenever I worked any of his games.

You really can surf in the morning and snow ski in the afternoon here in southern California.:cool:

UMP25 Thu Jul 30, 2009 02:17pm

Hell, you can do that HERE in Chicago without having to travel! :p

FYI, July 2009: the coldest July ever in Chicago history. :mad:

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 30, 2009 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 618093)
Hell, you can do that HERE in Chicago without having to travel! :p

FYI, July 2009: the coldest July ever in Chicago history. :mad:

If you call those puny little swells rolling in off the lake "waves," okay.:)

kylejt Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:16pm

Why not? I've done it. Not that it matters to me, but I've seen a D1 crew do it.




Y'all need to get away from this mentality. Wear what looks good to you, and stop goosestepping to what your "heroes" wear. More often than not the only taste those guys have is in their mouth.

Example: Smocks
http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squ...5939umpire.jpg

briancurtin Thu Jul 30, 2009 09:27pm

I like those "smock" jackets only in long sleeve form, and not 2 sizes too big.

They used to not be convertible back when they were first introduced years back, but then they were modified as you see them today.

UMP25 Fri Jul 31, 2009 01:11am

They're just plain ugly. Yuck.

Rita C Sat Aug 01, 2009 01:25am

First time I saw one of these jackets was at one of my son's games. (Mens league)

I thought the base umpire was just wearing one of his regular jackets and it made him look unprofessional and sloppy. In my opinion, it went along with wearing his crotch halfway to his knees.

Rita

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 617034)
Count me as one of the few, if only, umpires who thinks those half-mock-convertible-zip up-removable-sleeve-thingies are just hideous period. The short-sleeve black shirt, long-sleeve black shirt, and jackets with the stripes on the shoulder were just fine.

I wouldn't doubt it if Dick Honig convinced MLB to use these so Dick could dream up and manufacture yet another article of uniform attire that everyone will then consider a "must buy."

:D



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