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SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:16am

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 614927)
How does the PU own the pitcher catcher and batter? They decide what they do. I just don't see how a PU can own them.

You really can't be that...well I can't say it because it will get deleted.:mad: Are you really unfamiliar with the phrase, or the meaning in this case? :confused: He means that he is the one in charge of keeping track of these people's actions during the game. Hey, we outlawed slavery in the 1860s in this country, so I don't understand your silliness at all.

cc6 Thu Jul 16, 2009 01:08am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 614938)
You really can't be that...well I can't say it because it will get deleted.:mad: Are you really unfamiliar with the phrase, or the meaning in this case? :confused: He means that he is the one in charge of keeping track of these people's actions during the game. Hey, we outlawed slavery in the 1860s in this country, so I don't understand your silliness at all.

Ah, but I know from Mr. Tim_C that when he says something, it is normally more than just what the rest of us would have assumed. The plate ump keeps track of everybody's actions during the game, but clearly something must be unique about the catcher, batter and pitcher.

Forest Ump Thu Jul 16, 2009 09:09am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 614604)
California is not courteous in this respect either. We never adapted any of the "speed up (yeah, right)" rules that NFHS suggests, except we do have the 10 run rule back, I think. Anyone know for sure?

Up here in Northern California, about 550 miles from you, we don't use the CR rule and unfortunately the 10 run rule either. I know that doesn't answer your question because we have, I think, three HS sections in this state.

LDUB Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:09am

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 614906)
It NEVER speeds up the game. It ALWAYS allows participation from a non-starter. Participation must be the goal.

So when the catcher is on base when the third out is made he ALWAYS is able to run into the dugout, put his gear on, and get back on the field and take the remainder of the warmup pitches within 1 minute timed from the third out?

Welpe Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:37am

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Originally Posted by Forest Ump (Post 614970)
Up here in Northern California, about 550 miles from you, we don't use the CR rule and unfortunately the 10 run rule either. I know that doesn't answer your question because we have, I think, three HS sections in this state.

We have 10 sections here in CA. ;)

http://www.cifcs.org/CIFSectionsMap/SECTIO~1.HTM

Forest Ump Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:11pm

10, wow!! It is a big state for sure. Thanks for that info.

SethPDX Thu Jul 16, 2009 05:19pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 615008)
So when the catcher is on base when the third out is made he ALWAYS is able to run into the dugout, put his gear on, and get back on the field and take the remainder of the warmup pitches within 1 minute timed from the third out?

Probably not. That's why you have a guy on the bench grab a helmet and glove unless you only have 9 players that day.

SethPDX Thu Jul 16, 2009 05:21pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 615015)
We have 10 sections here in CA. ;)

Map of CIF Sections

So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?

LDUB Fri Jul 17, 2009 01:26am

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 615087)
Probably not. That's why you have a guy on the bench grab a helmet and glove unless you only have 9 players that day.

You are correct. The catcher probably will not be able to make it from the bases, to the dugout, and back on the field in under a minute...therefore the game will be delayed as normally the warmup pitches take no longer than 1 minute timed from the third out. If the catcher was ready to go when the third out was made then the warmup pitches would not take longer than a minute.

Welpe Fri Jul 17, 2009 02:02am

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 615088)
So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?

Not that I'm aware of. There are only sectional champions in baseball. Football used to have only sectional champions until a few years ago where they went to a bowl system where a team from Northern California plays a team from Southern California in each division. From what I understand, basketball has a tradtional state tournament.

jdmara Fri Jul 17, 2009 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by UmpTTS43 (Post 614449)
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At the bottom of the sheet I record visits and work up. Inning, outs and batter up during visit. If it is not a charged visit, I put an "X" before the info.

X B4 0 out #12
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I have always noted the inning and out for a visit...Is there any benefit to noting the batter? Just rereading the post and come to a conclusion on how I want to keep my card in the future...Thanks!

-Josh

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jul 17, 2009 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 615088)
So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?

The LA City section winner doesn't even play the Southern Section winner, even though the City Section is right in the middle of the Southern Section and many of the schools play each other in the spring season.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jul 17, 2009 03:48pm

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 615088)
So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 615274)
The LA City section winner doesn't even play the Southern Section winner, even though the City Section is right in the middle of the Southern Section and many of the schools play each other in the spring season.

Los Angeles is huge, and San Diego isn't tiny either.

In San Diego County, there are 74 high schools that have baseball programs. They are divided into leagues and conferences, with usually 10 to 12 teams each, by area. There are four division classes, based on enrollement size; 4A, 3A, 2A, and 1A. Each division has first round, second round, quarter finals, and semi-finals. There are then four Section CIF Finals, one for each division, which are now held at Tony Gwynn Field at S.D.S.U. At one time, they held the finals at Qualcomm Stadium. This year, 10 teams got to play in 5 games at Petco Park during the regular season.

DG Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:18pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 615008)
So when the catcher is on base when the third out is made he ALWAYS is able to run into the dugout, put his gear on, and get back on the field and take the remainder of the warmup pitches within 1 minute timed from the third out?

It would save time if the catcher would put the gear on when he reaches the dugout, but that don't happen very often. And pitcher waits to come out until catcher is ready. What saves time is a backup catcher coming out to warmup the pitcher, and one of the other players bringing the pitcher his cap and glove when he is on the bases. That don't happen much either.

LDUB Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:23pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 615343)
And pitcher waits to come out until catcher is ready. What saves time is a backup catcher coming out to warmup the pitcher, and one of the other players bringing the pitcher his cap and glove when he is on the bases. That don't happen much either.

With third grade on down the manager stands in front of the dugout and announces where each player is going to be playing on defense that half inning...once you get past that the catcher wears his gear if he is in the dugout.

Pitcher waits for the catcher? I can't believe you allow that or any of the other crap you say happens...there is a one minute limit timed from the third out. No wonder pace of play is always a POE when guys like you let 4 minutes go between every inning.


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