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Kevin Finnerty Thu Jul 02, 2009 09:24am
Rules are based on fairness, mostly.

It's unfair to make a temporarily disabled man be a runner. Take one off the foot and you're temporarily disabled.

mbyron Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:40am
So don't hit it off your foot. :shrug:

Seems akin to a let in tennis.

David B Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:01am
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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 611953)
That would be a brutal rule. Batter breaks his leg after the ball hit him and now is out at 1B.

That would be nothing but trouble. But, speeds up the game b/c the catcher just has to tag the runner now. No need to throw it. And, imagine how many more DPs would occur b/c the catcher would just tag HP and tag the runner who is lying on the ground in pain next to him.
As I tell my teen age daughter, a little extreme. (tongue in cheek here now), I see lots of players laying on the ground after a batted ball hits them ...:rolleyes:

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David

GA Umpire Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:33am
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Originally Posted by David B (Post 612001)
As I tell my teen age daughter, a little extreme. (tongue in cheek here now), I see lots of players laying on the ground after a batted ball hits them ...:rolleyes:

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David
You say extreme. An MLB player hit a ball off his shin or foot and fractured it several years ago. He was out for the rest of the year I believe. I can't remember his name but he was a former Braves player and went to the Indians I believe and that is where he did it. I can picture the face but not the name.

So, instead of applying it completely, it would have to be circumstantial. Who is faking and who is not? It would be a tough call.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:49am
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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 612014)
You say extreme. An MLB player hit a ball off his shin or foot and fractured it several years ago. He was out for the rest of the year I believe. I can't remember his name but he was a former Braves player and went to the Indians I believe and that is where he did it. I can picture the face but not the name.
Are you thinking of David Justice, by chance? He separated his shoulder at the beginning of his last season with Atlanta, then was traded to Cleveland along with Marquis Grissom.

GA Umpire Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:59am
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 612020)
Are you thinking of David Justice, by chance? He separated his shoulder at the beginning of his last season with Atlanta, then was traded to Cleveland along with Marquis Grissom.
No. After going through some old rosters, it was Jermaine Dye. He hit one off the inside of his leg/foot and fractured/broke something. He went down fast.

David B Thu Jul 02, 2009 09:21pm
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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 612024)
No. After going through some old rosters, it was Jermaine Dye. He hit one off the inside of his leg/foot and fractured/broke something. He went down fast.
Come to think of it, Justice "went down fast" also after he left the Braves ... :D

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David

NFump Fri Jul 03, 2009 03:35pm
Did it hit his foot or no?

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jul 03, 2009 07:00pm
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Originally Posted by David B (Post 612126)
Come to think of it, Justice "went down fast" also after he left the Braves ... :D

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David
Just to set the record straight, David Justice's first year after being traded from the Braves to the Indians, 1997, he batted .329, hit 33 home runs with a .418 on-base percentage and a .596 slugging average. The Indians went to the World Series that year too. He had good years in 1998 and 1999, and in 2000 he batted .286, slugged .584, and hit 41 homers and had 118 RBI.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jul 03, 2009 09:53pm
And even more spectacular than that, he was married to Halle Berry.

DonInKansas Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:31pm
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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 612024)
No. After going through some old rosters, it was Jermaine Dye. He hit one off the inside of his leg/foot and fractured/broke something. He went down fast.
He did it in the playoffs while playing for the A's, I believe.


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