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jicecone Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:19am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 610133)
They must be some excepionally talented kids!:)

Come on Steve, didn't your son get drafted when he was 11. Get with the program, this 2009.

mbyron Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:57am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 610133)
They must be some excepionally talented kids!:)

I thought that at this point every child was way above average. :rolleyes:

Ump Rube Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:20pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 610170)
I thought that at this point every child was way above average. :rolleyes:

Remember, only half the kids can be above average. :D

bob jenkins Mon Jun 22, 2009 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by Ump Rube (Post 610172)
Remember, only half the kids can be above average. :D


that's not necessarily true at all.

Ump153 Mon Jun 22, 2009 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 610185)
that's not necessarily true at all.

You beat me to it. It appears someone forgot their 5th grade math.

Ump Rube Mon Jun 22, 2009 04:28pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 610185)
that's not necessarily true at all.

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Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 610204)
You beat me to it. It appears someone forgot their 5th grade math.

I know it is not true. It was something that was always said to/around me as a kid. (Kind of like, "Reading, writing, 'rithmetic")

The "average" referred to originally is arithmatic mean.
The "average" referred to in the saying is really arithmatic median.

ManInBlue Mon Jun 22, 2009 07:59pm

To the OP and my post - insert him in the 12 slot and play on. This is legal by U-trip rules and CBO.

On the average thing...if most of the kids are above "average" then the average is "better than 'average'"

Steve, you don't notice the MLB scouts at those 11 yo games? Man they're all over the place at my games. Of course, the kids know them all personally. They call them by name, Mom, Dad, Pawpaw...

DG Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:14pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 610185)
that's not necessarily true at all.

Explain please. If there is average then half are above and half below, unless we are considering the head of pin for the ONE.

Matt Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 610281)
Explain please. If there is average then half are above and half below, unless we are considering the head of pin for the ONE.

What is the average of the values 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, and 1?

91.

91% (10 out of 11) of the values are above average.

You are confusing average (mean) with median.

bob jenkins Tue Jun 23, 2009 08:22am

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 610281)
Explain please. If there is average then half are above and half below, unless we are considering the head of pin for the ONE.

99.99% of people have more than the average number of arms. (No disrespect intented to anyone who has fewer than the averag or more than the median number of arms.)

PeteBooth Tue Jun 23, 2009 09:17am

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 610055)

Here's the situation. A player not appearing on the lineup card checks in and plays an inning in LF. The defense gets three outs and goes into the dugout to take their at bats. They've already batted once around their order (using a continuous lineup of 11 players). The opposing coach brings the "rogue" player to the umpire's attention. What, if anything, can/should be done about it? Would appreciate both Fed and USSSA/OBR treatment.

You need to look at the local league rules. As Bob pointed out in USSSA using CBO a late arriving player bats at the end so all you need to do is make certain this so called "rogue" player did not bat out of order. Also, even if the "rogue" player did bat out of order when did the coach bring this to the umpire's attention.

Whenever a league adopts CBO make certain you check THEIR local league rules especially if a player gets EJ'd. sick etc because in some leagues that use CBO if a player gets EJ'd or injured it's an automatic out when that spot in the order is due up. In some "other" league they might simply skip that batter's position in the line-up.


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