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Klokard Wed Jun 10, 2009 01:55am

Lot's of good advice here based on sound experience. I have only owned 2 CP's in 30 years of umping. A Carlucci and a West Vest by Douglas. Still own both. I use the Carlucci for upper level ball and the WV for lower div. To me it's like insurance. Buy the best and hope you will never need it. Invest your money in quality equipment and maintain it. It will last you a long time.

bob jenkins Wed Jun 10, 2009 07:47am

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Originally Posted by mdezinno (Post 607775)
looking to by equipment. Diamond CP vs Pro 9 CP


Add Honig's K1 to the list.

mbyron Wed Jun 10, 2009 07:54am

A good rule with respect to buying equipment: Decide the highest level of ball you expect to be working in the next 10 years. Buy the kind of equipment used by the guys in your association who do that level.

If you expect to be working HS varsity or up in that time frame, then I would by a West Vest (gold or platinum), a mask or helmet that costs more than $100, and Davis or Honigs shins.

And: don't forget plate shoes. I picked up a pair of New Balance 450s last offseason for under $100.

It's a lot of money up front for officiating, but (a) it's tax deductible, and (b) it's cheaper than a new head.

zm1283 Wed Jun 10, 2009 08:19am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 607959)
A good rule with respect to buying equipment: Decide the highest level of ball you expect to be working in the next 10 years. Buy the kind of equipment used by the guys in your association who do that level.

If you expect to be working HS varsity or up in that time frame, then I would by a West Vest (gold or platinum), a mask or helmet that costs more than $100, and Davis or Honigs shins.

And: don't forget plate shoes. I picked up a pair of New Balance 450s last offseason for under $100.

It's a lot of money up front for officiating, but (a) it's tax deductible, and (b) it's cheaper than a new head.

You can get good masks for well under $100. The West Vest Wilson models and the lightweight Diamond come to mind.

You don't need Davis or Honigs shin guards. Diamond and All-Star make good shin guards as well, not to mention Wilson's multiple models.

mbyron Wed Jun 10, 2009 09:23am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 607966)
You can get good masks for well under $100. The West Vest Wilson models and the lightweight Diamond come to mind.

You don't need Davis or Honigs shin guards. Diamond and All-Star make good shin guards as well, not to mention Wilson's multiple models.

Your opinion. I was posting what I would do.

zm1283 Wed Jun 10, 2009 09:40am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 607992)
Your opinion. I was posting what I would do.

Just pointing out that you don't NEED a mask over $100, even if you're doing high level high school or even college ball. In fact, there are very few traditional masks over $100. (Wilson Titanium, All-Star...anything else?)

I've seen MLB guys wearing this Wilson Tan Umpire Mask: Ump Attire before. If it's good enough for them, I think it's good enough for any of us.

This one too: Wilson Chrome Moliben Umpire Mask - New View: Ump Attire

Bishopcolle Wed Jun 10, 2009 03:18pm

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Originally Posted by mdezinno (Post 607785)
I am doing 12 and under LL. Does that change your advice

Somewhat seriously, somewhat joking: "You might consider the "raft."

DonInKansas Wed Jun 10, 2009 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 607959)
And: don't forget plate shoes. I picked up a pair of New Balance 450s last offseason for under $100.

If you decide on the 450s (I LOVE mine) get them at shoebuy.com. Use the coupon code "DAD" to get them for around 80 bucks shipped. The site runs 20% off coupon codes fairly regularly and that's the time to score them.

kylejt Wed Jun 10, 2009 04:16pm

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Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 608110)
If you decide on the 450s (I LOVE mine) get them at shoebuy.com. Use the coupon code "DAD" to get them for around 80 bucks shipped. The site runs 20% off coupon codes fairly regularly and that's the time to score them.

And, be sure to buy them 1/2 size larger than your normal size.


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