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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
(Post 601595)
I don't consider what UMP25 said to the coach as baiting. Being a smart a$$, maybe but I would have probably gone the same way with this conversation. I have to be honest, I liked the response!
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I, too, do not see this as baiting, and furthermore, I don't see it as necessarily being sarcastic.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
(Post 601646)
So that's it, huh? Must not be doing their job. Or I'm a wimp. You shouldn't have such a narrow-minded view of umpires who solve (and win) conflicts without any coach ejections. Nor should you, LDUB.
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I will. As a law-enforcement and military professional, I will always have a negative assessment of someone who refuses to consider using all available options when faced with conflict. It limits your ability to resolve it satisfactorily.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
(Post 601646)
My conflicts have been resolved virtually always to my satisfaction without ever having to toss a guy.
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"Virtually always?" That's an oxymoron. Wordsmithing like this is a sign of someone attempting to convince himself what he says is true.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
(Post 601646)
I just don't let it get out of hand. I gain control of situations quickly with as few words as possible. And I also set it all up well at the plate meeting. There are many benefits to avoiding the ejection. I gain better results from these guys later in games or down the road when I don't toss them when they know I could or should. It's the way I do things. I don't back down, and I don't throw it around, either. All of my background and training have been put to use in my on-field conflict resolution actions. It's easy to win a conflict with an ejection. It's difficult to win a conflict without the use of that particular tool.
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Here lies your problem--you view an ejection as a negative act, one that you must initiate. It is not. It is nothing more than a tool that is needed and proper for game management.
Think about police officers and arrests. The arrest is merely the logical end result of a series of actions, of which at least one is negative--it's not the negative action itself. We wouldn't praise a cop that has no arrests, and we shouldn't praise the umpire that keeps participants around at all costs.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
(Post 601646)
But there's just been no need to toss a coach ... yet.
The first time I decided not to toss a guy who crossed the line, I told him, "Mel, I know you think you're gone, but I'm going to make you stay and sit on that bench with your mouth closed and watch the entire game."
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This part has already been addressed. If someone has crossed the line, there is a need to toss him.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
(Post 601646)
I rise above it out of respect for the game without the ego-driven spectacle of the ejection. You should try it.
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I will say this--anyone who talks about "the game" as some sort of revered entity has a misplaced sense of reverence.
Furthermore, ejections are a part of baseball, and anyone who dismisses them as "ego-driven" really should reconsider being an umpire.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
(Post 601646)
And lacking in courage, I am not. I just don't ever lose my cool in public---especially on a baseball field when I am in charge.
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Again, you conflate an ejection with ego. It's not about personal issues, it's simply a necessary part of baseball. Don't read more into it than what is there. Just like my police officer analogy--sure, there are times where cops take personal satisfaction in removing a less-than-productive member of society from the rest of it. However, the majority of times, an arrest is nothing more than an affirmation that a person has to account for his or her behavior.