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Umpire_Jeremy Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:25am

If a manager makes a defensive change in the middle of an inning and simply sends out his fielders to their replacement positions would you charge him with a visit and why? Please give rule reference.

Notes: The replacement subs didn't make any attempt to relay a message from the coach to get around rule 8.06. They are just going to their position.


Thanks Guys.

jumpmaster Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:58am

No visit - OBR
 
Rule 8.06 states that "A professional league shall adopt the following rule pertaining to the visit of the manager or coach TO THE PITCHER. . ."(empahsis mine)

Rule 3.03 states "A player, or players, may be substituted during a game at any time the ball is dead." Furthermore, 3.03 gives a scenario in which 2 or more substitutes of the defensive team enter the game at the same time.

Based off these things, I deduct that 1) it is not illegal to conduct multiple substitutions of the defense as long as it is during a dead ball. 2) Visits relate only to the conversations between the manager/coach and the pitcher (including by way of the catcher/infielder - Rule 8.06)

As the PU, I would kindly ask the coach what the heck is going on. But that is just me. :)

Umpire_Jeremy Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:21pm

Thanks JumpMaster...As you could probably tell by my post I was definately not going to charge the manager with a visit.

That doesn't even make sense to me.

Thanks a lot.

Rog Fri Jun 28, 2002 09:38pm

As long as that is all that took place = no!
Ditto on what "jumpmaster" states.

bluezebra Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:49am

No charged conference. But, you better make sure you find out where in the order the subs are going to bat.

Bob

blarson Mon Jul 29, 2002 08:28pm

if there are multiple changes
 
If there are multiple changes and the coach doesn't inform of the changes doesn't the UIC decide who bats where ?

Bob

Boone Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:44am

can't the manager wait until he's at bat to decide where those guys go? he may even pinch hit for one of the def subs...

blarson Tue Jul 30, 2002 12:11pm

just looked in my PBUC
 
2.6 When two or more substitute players of the defensive team enter the game at the same time, the manager shall, <b>immedieatly before</b> they take their positions as fielders, designate to the UIC such player's position in the team's batting order and the UIC swhall so notify the official scorer. If this information is not <b>immediately</b> given to the UIC, he shall have authority to designate the substitutes' places in the batting order.


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