For Sale: All Star 2200SL

[zm1283]

Asking $110 for it plus shipping. (Or a good offer) I bought it last fall and have worn it in one game and one scrimmage. Still looks brand new. It's the larger size, up to 7 3/4.

I think I'm going to a Wilson traditional mask. I like the HSM and there's nothing wrong with it, but I always used a traditional when I was a catcher and I think I like them better.

PM me.

[zm1283]

Sold.

[Klokard]

Are you including the goalie pads, stick and jersey??? Who wears those silly things???

[rmiszta]

Don't knock em until you try em.

Seriously, I'm not sure about the one mentioned above, but I used to wear the traditional all the time. Always felt a bit forward heavy no matter how light they are. Picked up the Wilson Shock FX Helmet this year (titanium cage). Awesome and no need for a hat. Light (2.3 pounds), way better vision, especially side to side, looks great, balanced on your head. Wouldn't ever go back to traditional. Just my humble opinion.

[Klokard]

Not meant to be taken seriously. I know some darn good umpires who wear them. Just not to my liking.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Klokard

Not meant to be taken seriously. I know some darn good umpires who wear them. Just not to my liking.

I own a Shock FX, but I have yet to wear it other than to test it out with some college players. I suppose I'll wear it someday in a game, but I just haven't made the jump. As Bobby stated, the vision is superior to any mask; the balance is superb as well, and in my experience, the way it absorbs a blow is discernibly better than any mask. You can wipe with all the $tudie$--other than the sound of a blow being louder, there is no comparison to the actual impact of a straight shot to the cage. The Shock FX is markedly safer than any mask.

[angryZebra]

I got the shock FX at the begining of the season & LOVE IT. Better vision than my old buckethead, which even that one was better than the traditional. What gets me is that the FX they market to umpires runs as much as $300, while the one I got is the adult "catchers helmet", for $130 at a local place - AND it doesn't scuff when it gets hit since it has a non-shiney rubberized-like coating. kinda different.
haven't felt a hit -taken a few... I think?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by angryZebra

I got the shock FX at the begining of the season & LOVE IT. Better vision than my old buckethead, which even that one was better than the traditional. What gets me is that the FX they market to umpires runs as much as $300, while the one I got is the adult "catchers helmet", for $130 at a local place - AND it doesn't scuff when it gets hit since it has a non-shiney rubberized-like coating. kinda different.
haven't felt a hit -taken a few... I think?

That's because the more expensive one is a titanium cage. Your catcher's version is a steel cage.

[Chris_Hickman]

On Labor day I took a foul and it hit me square in the face. I was wearing a Wilson Titanium low profile. It bent the lower eye bar and broke a weld. I got a mild concussion. Wilson replaced the mask with a standard view.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman

On Labor day I took a foul and it hit me square in the face. I was wearing a Wilson Titanium low profile. It bent the lower eye bar and broke a weld. I got a mild concussion. Wilson replaced the mask with a standard view.

Chris, is that all you got from Wilson, a replacement mask?
Tell me you still have possesion of the damaged mask,
statements from three reliable witnesses and a good lawyer.
Send Wilson a message your not happy.
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Is anyone keeping count?
Spread the word among your organizations.
These mask "may be" dangerous, until proven otherwise.
Definitely not a design flaw.
More of a fabricated marketing blunder.
Please ask for your money back from local retailers.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by SAump

Chris, is that all you got from Wilson, a replacement mask?
Tell me you still have possesion of the damaged mask,
statements from three reliable witnesses and a good lawyer.
Send Wilson a message your not happy.
-------------
Is anyone keeping count?
Spread the word among your organizations.
These mask "may be" dangerous, until proven otherwise.
Definitely not a design flaw.
More of a fabricated marketing blunder.
Please ask for your money back from local retailers.

How do you know it's not a design flaw? You mean to say that they purposely chose the materials they did, welded with the techniques they used, so that they would purposely break when impacted? What?

[Chris_Hickman]

I look at it like this. All masks bend if they are hit in the right place. I know guys that use a Nike titanium and they have bent. The ball that hit me was the worst I have ever taken. If I was wearing my Mizuno I am sure it would have bent the sh!t out of that too. That's just the nature of the business. I will say this. I will never use a low profile mask again. My Mizuno is a semi-low profile but nothing like a wilson.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

How do you know it's not a design flaw? You mean to say that they purposely chose the materials they did, welded with the techniques they used, so that they would purposely break when impacted? What?

I am not disputing with those in charge of production. I am disputing the fact that new products come out as advertised. If I had the choice between a HSM and a titanium mask, I'd be leaning toward the HSM right now. I don't see those HSM guys admit they suffered a concussion wearing a brand new mask or that it bent after the 1st shot. You know what I'm saying.

Ask me if I care what the owners of a +POS SUL mask, hockey style mask or the new view mask say about them. I don't remember so many garbage stories when the original lightweight mask came into use. I don't remember so many injury reports years back. Do I need to increase my insurance coverage? Well, if concussions are hazards of the occupation, perhaps I'll walk away before NFHS require umpires to wear a HSM. Just something to think about.

[cardinalfan]

I don't know what's up this year.

I have been hit hard in the mask five times and twice in the CP already this year. Most of my games have been NAIA or the higher classifications of high school.
I'm in the exact same position behind the plate as I've always used. I usually don't get hit this many times through college, high school and Legion season.

My Shock FX has been good in every hit. I still don't like carrying the bucket, but I feel good about the protection. I still carry the old mask, but it's getting deeper in the bag all the time.