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mandotheman Mon Mar 02, 2009 04:43pm

Davis New-View Mask by Wilson
 
I am thinking about getting this mask, does anyone have any kind of feedback? I would appreciate any kind of feedback. Sorry I have no picture, but I know that Gerry Davis sells this product.:eek:

nine01c Mon Mar 02, 2009 05:57pm

I returned this mask because it was squished in too close to my face and the visor of my (combo) hat was in the way of wearing it properly.

ozzy6900 Mon Mar 02, 2009 07:06pm

Wasn't the Nu-View mask the one that many of the MLB guys were wearing when they received concussions this past season?

Emperor Ump Tue Mar 03, 2009 02:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 584774)
Wasn't the Nu-View mask the one that many of the MLB guys were wearing when they received concussions this past season?

I believe it was.

jdmara Tue Mar 03, 2009 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 584774)
Wasn't the Nu-View mask the one that many of the MLB guys were wearing when they received concussions this past season?

It's called the New-View because everything seems hazy after getting hit in the mask by a foul tip. From what others have said about the product. I would not suggest it

-Josh

mrm21711 Tue Mar 03, 2009 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by mandotheman (Post 584703)
I am thinking about getting this mask, does anyone have any kind of feedback? I would appreciate any kind of feedback. Sorry I have no picture, but I know that Gerry Davis sells this product.:eek:

Does anybody else find it funny that Davis himself wears the feather weight frame with Wilson pads?

MajorDave Tue Mar 03, 2009 03:15pm

WTF is this Font size/style changing in this post?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 585042)
It's called the New-View because everything seems hazy after getting hit in the mask by a foul tip. From what others have said about the product. I would not suggest it

-Josh

Is this supposed to mean something? I found it annoying. Reminded me of the childish high school Freshmen and Sophomores I used to teach.

Thanks in advance for growing up and just using a regular font.

I have used three New View Models-Black for three years, Gray for a year and Titanium since last July.

I have had no problems and have taken a significant number of foul tips and even a direct pitch or two in the mask with no denting, no headaches, no problems whatsoever.

I think it is all related to how tightly you wear the mask. I know of two MiLB umpires with significant concussions last year wearing HSM's. One All-Star and one Diamond.

jdmara Tue Mar 03, 2009 04:17pm

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Originally Posted by MajorDave (Post 585077)
Is this supposed to mean something? I found it annoying. Reminded me of the childish high school Freshmen and Sophomores I used to teach.

Thanks in advance for growing up and just using a regular font.

I have used three New View Models-Black for three years, Gray for a year and Titanium since last July.

I have had no problems and have taken a significant number of foul tips and even a direct pitch or two in the mask with no denting, no headaches, no problems whatsoever.

I think it is all related to how tightly you wear the mask. I know of two MiLB umpires with significant concussions last year wearing HSM's. One All-Star and one Diamond.

Lighten up there Dave! ;) {Sarcasm}As you can see from all the other posts in the past, I'm a rampant poster for using multiple font sizes in a single post. :rolleyes: I even sometimes use punctuation and capitalization sometimes as well. {/Sarcasm} Making a simple point that many people have received concussions while using this mask. If I could have made the font hazy I would have. However, since making the font hazy wasn't an option, I went with multiple font sizes. Seriously, just answered the question with a little, perhaps misplaced, humor. It's nothing to get your panties in a bunch over.

-Josh

LDUB Tue Mar 03, 2009 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by mrm21711 (Post 585046)
Does anybody else find it funny that Davis himself wears the feather weight frame with Wilson pads?

What is funny about him wearing a popular mask which is sold by many stores including the one which he owns?

mrm21711 Tue Mar 03, 2009 07:51pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 585153)
What is funny about him wearing a popular mask which is sold by many stores including the one which he owns?

Because his store was adamantly pushing the Chrome Moliben mask when it came out as the "Davis New View" mask.

LDUB Tue Mar 03, 2009 08:05pm

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Originally Posted by mrm21711 (Post 585160)
Because his store was adamantly pushing the Chrome Moliben mask when it came out as the "Davis New View" mask.

I still don't get it. The feather weight which you say he wears is called the "Davis Feather Weight Mask".

cc6 Tue Mar 03, 2009 08:48pm

I don't know where you stand, but I have NEVER been hit with a foul tip.

MajorDave Tue Mar 03, 2009 08:54pm

It's cool..... but
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 585108)
..... It's nothing to get your panties in a bunch over.-Josh

I go commando. How do I fix it now?

Humor intended.

I got a little crazy when the post gave me a headache with the ransom note looking typeset.

Seriously though, I have not seen any credible evidence that any specific mask is related to any specific injury. There can be several, if not many, factors that caused the injuries to some of these guys. As I said earlier, two that I know of personally, were HSM wearers. I'm sure some were wearing new-view, some were traditional style, various manufacturers involved, etc.

I think that the fit of the mask, the speed of the ball at the time of the hit, the angle of your neck, spot on the mask or hsm where the ball hits, possible flinching immediately before the hit, etc., etc., etc. are ALL factors. We are just speculating and branding a certain style of mask as the culprit.

I don't think we can scientifically or with any degree of certainty determine a single cause or pinpoint the injuries to any single style or brand of the equipment with all of these factors.

As I said, I wore the black new-view mask as my only mask for two seasons with no problems whatsoever, got the gray one and no problems, now the Titanium and no problems. I also had a Honig's single bar traditional and no problems there either. I wear all my masks very loose and they usually spin and sometimes actually fall off my head when hit. I have not had headaches, jaw aches, sore spots, neck stiffness, etc. from any of the hits which are at least 14 or more times with any of the masks I wear. ( I work primarily high school varsity, American Legion in the summer, NAIA, NCAA D-II and D-III and some very good 14yo and up travel ball in the summer)

So, unless someone has research based data,-Stop spreading rumours. We are all at risk of injury with anything we wear. We know this going into the job. Right?

jdmara Tue Mar 03, 2009 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 585177)
I don't know where you stand, but I have NEVER been hit with a foul tip.

Good point ;) It's impossible

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorDave (Post 585178)
I go commando. How do I fix it now?

Humor intended.

I got a little crazy when the post gave me a headache with the ransom note looking typeset.

Seriously though, I have not seen any credible evidence that any specific mask is related to any specific injury. There can be several, if not many, factors that caused the injuries to some of these guys. As I said earlier, two that I know of personally, were HSM wearers. I'm sure some were wearing new-view, some were traditional style, various manufacturers involved, etc.

I think that the fit of the mask, the speed of the ball at the time of the hit, the angle of your neck, spot on the mask or hsm where the ball hits, possible flinching immediately before the hit, etc., etc., etc. are ALL factors. We are just speculating and branding a certain style of mask as the culprit.

I don't think we can scientifically or with any degree of certainty determine a single cause or pinpoint the injuries to any single style or brand of the equipment with all of these factors.

As I said, I wore the black new-view mask as my only mask for two seasons with no problems whatsoever, got the gray one and no problems, now the Titanium and no problems. I also had a Honig's single bar traditional and no problems there either. I wear all my masks very loose and they usually spin and sometimes actually fall off my head when hit. I have not had headaches, jaw aches, sore spots, neck stiffness, etc. from any of the hits which are at least 14 or more times with any of the masks I wear. ( I work primarily high school varsity, American Legion in the summer, NAIA, NCAA D-II and D-III and some very good 14yo and up travel ball in the summer)

So, unless someone has research based data,-Stop spreading rumours. We are all at risk of injury with anything we wear. We know this going into the job. Right?

You're never going to find any credit research because it's not worth the researcher's time to invest money into such a small market. On the other hand, you're never going to find credit research that isn't the case either.

You are correct I probably shouldn't spread "rumors" but the question was "Wasn't the Nu-View mask the one that many of the MLB guys were wearing when they received concussions this past season?". I think it's a true statement that some umpires in the past season received concussions while wearing the mask. Am I wrong? Anyways...Bury the topic

-Josh

briancurtin Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:46pm

How many more threads are we going to have about this mask?


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