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Kevin Finnerty Tue Jan 20, 2009 09:20am

This solves it for good!
 
Hopefully, without causing much commotion, this video proves--beyond a shadow of a doubt--that there is such thing as a rising fastball, and should put an end to this tired debate:

http://www.mlb.com/media/player/mp_t...e=v_free&_mp=1

JR12 Tue Jan 20, 2009 09:47am

I was there. Probably my only All Star game.

Tim C Tue Jan 20, 2009 09:47am

Hahahaha
 
Thanks Kevin, I think we all needed a touch of humor during these trying times.

Regards,

Kevin Finnerty Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:00am

;)

MichaelVA2000 Tue Jan 20, 2009 01:41pm

That pitch certainly got the attention of the person in the white shirt leaning over the railing.

Emperor Ump Tue Jan 20, 2009 05:49pm

Battle of the mullets...

Kevin Finnerty Tue Jan 20, 2009 06:56pm

Johnson won that too.

ozzy6900 Tue Jan 20, 2009 08:32pm

Wait! I'm confused! Does this mean that the myth of the rising fastball has been disproved?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Oh I just love stirring the pot! :eek:

Kevin Finnerty Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Ump (Post 570564)
Battle of the mullets...

http://www.creativespill.com/lj/rodbeck.jpg

And then there's Rod Beck--a guy who put his millions to work to help children with catastrophic illness.

And one of the most spectacular of all of baseball's great mullets.

justanotherblue Wed Jan 21, 2009 02:02pm

just cause
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 570593)
Wait! I'm confused! Does this mean that the myth of the rising fastball has been disproved?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Oh I just love stirring the pot! :eek:



I've seen them rising fast balls.......in softball.....also seen a couple in baseball... when the gunslinger was draging his knuckles off the dirt with every pitch....oh wait... you meant from an overhand delivery:D

SAump Wed Jan 21, 2009 07:19pm

Imagine
 
http://bjays.files.wordpress.com/200...nlocation1.gif
It was Mother's Day.

Kevin Finnerty Wed Jan 21, 2009 07:34pm

Imagine ...
 
... that the previous link was relevant.

SAump Wed Jan 21, 2009 07:50pm

The Magnus Effect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 570954)
... that the previous link was relevant.

The fastballs are high.
The curve balls are low.
Gravity and spin solves it for good!

I decided to venture over to the bktball board.
"While I have you attention" caught my attention.
http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=51089
Hope you don't mind me tagging it to this thread.
Warning: You'll never get the time back. Enjoy!

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jan 22, 2009 01:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry
Terminal velocity is the speed that a train is traveling when it goes right through a train terminal without stopping.

I can't believe more people don't know that.

Hey Kevin Finnerty!

Thanks for the biggest laugh I've had here in a while now!!! LMAO!!!:D

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jan 22, 2009 01:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 570613)
http://www.creativespill.com/lj/rodbeck.jpg

And then there's Rod Beck--a guy who put his millions to work to help children with catastrophic illness.

And one of the most spectacular of all of baseball's great mullets.

May God rest his soul. I miss Shooter!:(

SAump Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:29pm

High Speed Camera
 
Quote:

Video-1 and Video-2 of a baseball striking an ash cylinder bolted to a concrete wall, taken at 1000 frames/s. These videos are best viewed with Windows Media Player. The grid in the background has a 1-inch spacing for both horizontal and vertical lines, allowing a calibration of the camera. In both cases, the incident ball has a speed of about 91 mph and a spin rate of 3000 rpm. In Video-1, the ball hits the top half of the cylinder, scatters upward, and emerges with backspin (i.e., the spin direction is unchanged). In Video-2, the ball hits the bottom half of the cylinder, scatters downward, and emerges with topspin (i.e., the spin direction is reversed). These video's and similar data are being studied to determine the relationship between the outgoing spin and the scattering angle.
http://webusers.npl.uiuc.edu/~a-nathan/pob/video.html
3000 rpm should have some effect on the pitch height over the last 3 feet.
What did you see at 91 mph? Draw your own conclusion.

Hint: Use the mouse to play/pause video.

greymule Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:57pm

The "pitch" has forward spin, like a curve. It would be nice to see those last inches on a pitch with backspin.

Does a human throw a pitch spinning at 3000 RPM? I assume a machine is "throwing" the ball. How similar is this to a throw by a human?

Interesting.


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