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yawetag Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:13pm

F4 Tricking Baserunner
 
YouTube - 2nd Baseman Tricks Base Runner & Ump Screws It Up

What's your call in this situation?

To me, the BU did the proper thing. FED 3-3-1g(4) was my first thought, as F4's act was "not in accordance with the spirit of fair play."

UmpJM Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:36pm

yawetag,

Depends on the rules the game is being played under.

Under FED rules, the F4 telling the runner that the ball was foul is considered "verbal obstruction" and the runner would properly be awarded 3B.

Under OBR-based rule, there is no such notion and it's technically legal - the baserunner should be looking to the umpire or his base coach to see whether or not the ball was foul. Pretty bush, but legal.

JM

GerryB Sat Nov 15, 2008 03:07pm

And in an adult league playing OBR (and maybe a NCAA game depending on the coaches), the next runner going first to second would get his nose busted with an "errant" throw.

JR12 Sat Nov 15, 2008 03:24pm

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Originally Posted by GerryB (Post 550894)
And in an adult league playing OBR (and maybe a NCAA game depending on the coaches), the next runner going first to second would get his nose busted with an "errant" throw.

Or next time that runner came to bat he would get one in the ribs.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Nov 15, 2008 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by JR12 (Post 550897)
Or next time that runner came to bat he would get one in the ribs.

Following that train of thought, the next time that second baseman came to bat he would also get the rib shot.

aschramm Sat Nov 15, 2008 03:34pm

I'm watching this video, and I vaguely hear "Dude, It's foul". Actually after watching a few more times, I think that was yelled on an adjacent diamond with another game going, as you can hear another hit with a metal bat at 0:12 and 0:15. But even with that, I don't understand why the runner just gets up and heads back to first, when I believe he was able to see the ball go past him behind 2nd base.

MrUmpire Sat Nov 15, 2008 04:21pm

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Originally Posted by JR12 (Post 550897)
Or next time that runner came to bat he would get one in the ribs.


Why would the defense plunk a batter that just gave them an easy out? Makes no sense.

SethPDX Sat Nov 15, 2008 06:16pm

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Originally Posted by JR12 (Post 550897)
Or next time that runner came to bat he would get one in the ribs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000 (Post 550898)
Following that train of thought, the next time that second baseman came to bat he would also get the rib shot.

If anyone is taking one it's F4.

JR12 Sun Nov 16, 2008 07:31am

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 550909)
If anyone is taking one it's F4.

Sorry, thats what I meant to say.

Nigel Tufnel Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:32pm

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 550884)
YouTube - 2nd Baseman Tricks Base Runner & Ump Screws It Up

What's your call in this situation?

To me, the BU did the proper thing. FED 3-3-1g(4) was my first thought, as F4's act was "not in accordance with the spirit of fair play."


My call is that the HP ump is gonna have a sore neck if he keeps following those foul balls to the screen...


Also, it looks like two guys that are perfect for that level...


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