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johnSandlin Thu Oct 30, 2008 03:55pm

Reebok Plate Shoe?
 
I thought I read something here a while back that Reebok was going to make the plate shoe available to the public. Is this true? If so, who is going to carry it? And, what is the price range?

BlueTick48 Thu Oct 30, 2008 05:27pm

rbk
 
Available Jan/Feb 2009......contact Derrick Bowles with Kesslers Team Sports.....low plate $83.oo,Mid plate $88.00......................dbowles@kesslerteamspo rts.com.............Great guy to deal with,they have a deal on new balance also

johnSandlin Thu Oct 30, 2008 05:49pm

Thank you for the information.

njdevs00cup Thu Oct 30, 2008 08:43pm

I learned the plastic toe SpotBilt lesson myself a few weeks back. I was thinking NB's, but may have to give the Reeboks a try!

mrm21711 Thu Oct 30, 2008 09:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup (Post 547394)
I learned the plastic toe SpotBilt lesson myself a few weeks back. I was thinking NB's, but may have to give the Reeboks a try!

I was under the impression that the Reeboks were going to be made with a "hard toe" backing like the Spot-Bilts, not the steel toe found in the NB 450s.

Ump153 Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrm21711 (Post 547399)
I was under the impression that the Reeboks were going to be made with a "hard toe" backing like the Spot-Bilts, not the steel toe found in the NB 450s.

Mike Reilly's pair have steel toes and a steel metatarsal plate.

mbyron Fri Oct 31, 2008 07:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 547453)
Mike Reilly's pair have steel toes and a steel metatarsal plate.

Cool. What's his jock made of?

johnnyg08 Fri Oct 31, 2008 07:45am

I have heard/read that the Reeboks are garbage (I have not personally tried them)...I have the New Balance and love them. In fact, on the Rob Drake board (now closed) the overwhelming consensus was that that model was not very popular. Spend your money on the New Balance, they're proven to be a quality shoe. Why take a chance on something like that?

Kevin Finnerty Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:47am

NB!!

They are so comfortable ....

SanDiegoSteve Fri Oct 31, 2008 09:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 547502)
Cool. What's his jock made of?

Also a steel metatarsal plate!;)

Ump153 Fri Oct 31, 2008 09:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 547502)
Cool. What's his jock made of?


I'm sorry if I offended you by dispelling the rumor that Reebok plate shows do not have steel toes. I assumed some would like the correct information. I happened to see Reilly's earlier this year.

Feel free to report on any plate shows with which you are familiar. I will not insult you.

mbyron Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 547564)
I'm sorry if I offended you by dispelling the rumor that Reebok plate shows do not have steel toes. I assumed some would like the correct information. I happened to see Reilly's earlier this year.

Feel free to report on any plate shows with which you are familiar. I will not insult you.

What difference does it make who owns them? And if it makes no difference, why bother dropping the name?

mrm21711 Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 547453)
Mike Reilly's pair have steel toes and a steel metatarsal plate.

I recall reading somewhere that the models given to the MLB guys were steel toe but the ones produced by Reebok for the public would be hard toe. Just what I remember.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Oct 31, 2008 02:19pm

New Balance

No Brainer

Chris_Hickman Fri Oct 31, 2008 03:00pm

The samples the MLB guys received are steel toe. Mine are steel toe as well. The new ones will have a plastic toe. Reebok owns CCM and they have been using plastic in their hockey skates for years. I dont forsee a problem. As far as comfort.... equal to NB...but I like the low-top feel of the Reebok.

Ump153 Fri Oct 31, 2008 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 547599)
What difference does it make who owns them? And if it makes no difference, why bother dropping the name?


The last time I wrote about "an MLB umpire" doing such and such I was challenged for not being specific. This time I was specific and I am challenged for not being generic.

I'm sorry professor. I'll try to find a third method to communicate next time, one that might suit you better.:rolleyes:

SanDiegoSteve Fri Oct 31, 2008 04:34pm

Ump153,

The only thing wrong with naming a major league umpire in a post is that it makes people that don't know any major league umpires jealous of your association with said umpire. What we think is just being factual about having a certain conversation, or working with a certain big league umpire, etc., other people perceive as "name dropping," which is not necessarily the case. Every time I've ever mentioned a situation involving a MLB player or umpire I've officiated/worked with, I get a bunch of static from the peanut gallery, as if it's a sin to mention knowing these people personally. Some people don't know the difference between having acquantances and jock sniffing.

SethPDX Fri Oct 31, 2008 04:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman (Post 547764)
Reebok owns CCM and they have been using plastic in their hockey skates for years. I dont forsee a problem.

Tell that to NHL fans after Reebok redesigned all the jerseys (if you can find a hockey fan);)

I don't know; I would think most serious umpires would want the steel toe. But let's see what the feedback is after they've been on the market.

mbyron Sat Nov 01, 2008 08:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 547767)
The last time I wrote about "an MLB umpire" doing such and such I was challenged for not being specific. This time I was specific and I am challenged for not being generic.

I'm sorry professor. I'll try to find a third method to communicate next time, one that might suit you better.:rolleyes:

When someone makes a claim and refers to a source, it matters who the source is. Then it's reasonable to "challenge" the claim until the source and the source's credibility is known.

If you're making a claim about shoes, then the identity of the shoes' owner isn't really relevant.

kylejt Sat Nov 01, 2008 09:25am

I'd rather see a carbon fiber or ceramic toe and instep, but I'm sure it's a trickle down from the industrial shoe folks.

Delaware Blue Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 547910)
...but I'm sure it's a trickle down from the industrial shoe folks.

There are non-metallic composite toe industrial shoes that meet the I/C-75 and ASTM F2413-05 standards. Those are the same standards used for steel toe industrial shoes, so the technology is out there.

If someone came up with composite toe plate shoes that met those standards, I would not hesitate to wear them. Until then, no way. That said, I'm willing to bet there are a few cheap steel toe plate shoes that don't meet those standards.

Matt Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman (Post 547764)
The samples the MLB guys received are steel toe. Mine are steel toe as well. The new ones will have a plastic toe. Reebok owns CCM and they have been using plastic in their hockey skates for years. I dont forsee a problem. As far as comfort.... equal to NB...but I like the low-top feel of the Reebok.

There's a big difference between a skate and a shoe--the entire lower of a skate is one piece, thus enhancing the structural integrity and the ability to transmit force from an impact of a fast-moving hard object. Plate shoes, OTOH, only have the toe as an integral reinforced element, with no ability to transmit force elsewhere.

Matt Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 547798)
Tell that to NHL fans after Reebok redesigned all the jerseys (if you can find a hockey fan);)

Hey!!!

I don't mind the looks of them, but finding one for my own wearing is a pain--they just don't feel like they fit right.

bobbybanaduck Sat Nov 01, 2008 01:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 547731)
New Balance

No Brainer

if they only made them big enough for my waterski's then the above would be true. :(

SethPDX Sat Nov 01, 2008 04:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 547923)
Hey!!!

I don't mind the looks of them, but finding one for my own wearing is a pain--they just don't feel like they fit right.

I've never tried one on, but I don't like any NHL team enough to spend what the new ones cost. My local team is the Winter Hawks (WHL major junior) so that's really the only team I've followed. I've just got a few of the old replica jerseys I liked along with some Hawks sweaters.

And on the topic of shoes: I need some new plate shoes so I'll be trying the New Balances next season.

Emperor Ump Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck (Post 547930)
if they only made them big enough for my waterski's then the above would be true. :(

Have you tried going into one of the New Balance Stores. I was told by a friend who is a runner with big feet they can order sizes not typically available.

griff901c Mon Nov 03, 2008 06:19pm

NBEXPRESS.COM carries them big....

griff

Kevin Finnerty Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 547902)
When someone makes a claim and refers to a source, it matters who the source is. Then it's reasonable to "challenge" the claim until the source and the source's credibility is known.

If you're making a claim about shoes, then the identity of the shoes' owner isn't really relevant.

The way to keep a source is to not reveal the source. To anyone, ever.

Kevin Finnerty Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck (Post 547930)
if they only made them big enough for my waterski's then the above would be true. :(

They have them in 14 EEEE for crying out loud. :D

Kevin Finnerty Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:55am

This is the shoe??

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...SIDEVIEW-1.jpg

They must be kidding. Again, I must say:

New Balance

No Brainer

Pensaump Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 548439)
This is the shoe??

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...SIDEVIEW-1.jpg

They must be kidding. Again, I must say:

New Balance

No Brainer

I don't think it looks that bad. I mean, it looks just like the field shoe that many people love.

I wouldn't be opposed to trying it out. The only thing I think is the the white is a little bit excessive but if its comfortable and cleans up easy that's all I that I personally look for.

I also must add that a low top sneaker like plate shoe is more attractive to me than the high top NB's.

Emperor Ump Tue Nov 04, 2008 01:10pm

This is the first good look I've had at them. But I agree the white is too much. I only recently got over having white on the plate shoes at all, with the +POS and NB shoes, but this may send my progress into regression. That would probably keep me from getting them. But if they had a more subtle markings I'd at least give them a try. But for now I'll stick with the NB 450's.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Nov 04, 2008 02:39pm

Isn't everyone aware that all you have to do is black out the white if you don't care for it? Some black leather dye and you're in business.

Emperor Ump Tue Nov 04, 2008 04:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 548489)
Isn't everyone aware that all you have to do is black out the white if you don't care for it? Some black leather dye and you're in business.

Absolutely, and Dave wrote a great post once on how to do it and make it look good. I just want to be able to buy them off the shelf the way I like them.

Ump153 Wed Nov 05, 2008 06:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 548439)
This is the shoe??

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...SIDEVIEW-1.jpg

They must be kidding.


This is the early styling. They've been changed. The metatarsal plate is very different.

kylejt Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 548755)
This is the early styling. They've been changed. The metatarsal plate is very different.

Good. That looks like Shamu is humping my foot.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 548489)
Isn't everyone aware that all you have to do is black out the white if you don't care for it? Some black leather dye and you're in business.

Trying to black out all of that will look ridiculous. The N on the NB blacks out real well, but all of that crap? No way.

Klokard Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:54am

Kevin,
Before switching over to the NB's, I wore the Asics base show. I blacked out all the white and you could not tell it was not an all black shoe. I doubt I'll ever buy the Reebok plate shoe, not because of the excessive white, but because I have always felt Reebok products just don't last. That being said I have had 50 shares of Reebok stock since 1981 when they only made fitness shoes. Paid $12.50 a share.

tballump Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:12pm

Just out of curiosity. Did Vann's use to make a plate shoe? Base shoe? How did they wear and feel? How did they hold up? How protective were they (could they take shot)? What happened to them? Does anyone still have a pair that has held up?

SanDiegoSteve Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tballump (Post 548958)
Just out of curiosity. Did Vann's use to make a plate shoe? Base shoe? How did they wear and feel? How did they hold up? How protective were they (could they take shot)? What happened to them? Does anyone still have a pair that has held up?

I used to have both the Vans plate and base shoes back in the 80s. IIRC they were discontinued shortly thereafter. They felt pretty good, held up well and could take a shot. The plate shoes had steel toes and were similar to the Riddell XS (or Exclusive Shoe) plate shoes of the day. Plus, they had that ultra-cool looking white V on the sides.

My Vans were part of a gear bag which was stolen from my storage unit by some jack-booted thug(s). Included in the bag was a Reach RMCP protector and matching leg guards, a Wilson mask and various umpire accessories.

tballump Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:33pm

SDS

Thanks for the update on the shoes. Oh yeah, thanks for sticking up for TH in one of your posts after reading all about that miserable situation for years, until it was all finally settled. I always felt he and the others got a rotten deal. That was a nice article on him in the Louisville paper.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klokard (Post 548852)
Kevin,
Before switching over to the NB's, I wore the Asics base show. I blacked out all the white and you could not tell it was not an all black shoe. I doubt I'll ever buy the Reebok plate shoe, not because of the excessive white, but because I have always felt Reebok products just don't last. That being said I have had 50 shares of Reebok stock since 1981 when they only made fitness shoes. Paid $12.50 a share.

We had a restaurant in the 1980s and there was a guy who boasted that his 2000 shares of stock in this little athletic shoe company was going to put his kids through college. It had to be 1983 at the latest. Reebok, he said. I made fun of him.

johnSandlin Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:31pm

Bluetick,

Do you have an accurate phone number for Kessler Sports? I have tried emailing them and both emails have come back to me undelivered.

JJ Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:32am

I had Vans plate shoes - got them and a pair of Puma Scramblers when I got out of umpire school in 1985. The Van's lasted 6 years. I wore the Pumas for nearly 20 years, all the while looking for suitable replacements. I finally found those replacements, New Balance low top 350's, and that is my shoe of choice on the bases.
Oh, I miss those Pumas. Now it looks as though those 350's will be in my shoe hall of fame as well...

JJ

JR12 Sat Nov 08, 2008 02:02pm

looks like too much white to keep clean.

BlueTick48 Sat Nov 08, 2008 06:19pm

phone #
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnSandlin (Post 549225)
Bluetick,

Do you have an accurate phone number for Kessler Sports? I have tried emailing them and both emails have come back to me undelivered.





(770) 723-9359 ...................Derrick Bowles

johnSandlin Sat Nov 08, 2008 06:47pm

Thank you Bluetick. I appreciate the help.

etn_ump Sat Nov 22, 2008 09:34pm

OMG, these shoes are HIDEOUS!


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