Run Him?

Welpe · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 02, 2008, 10:40pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN

Since we had a base umpire coming down to third, I'm guessing this was a 2-man crew.

Nope, I wouldn't have run him. Mainly because I would've called the out and headed right back to the A position. He would've been gesturing at my back.

Ditto.

RPatrino · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 02, 2008, 10:57pm

I agree. I would have been heading back toward A, and he follows me at his own risk. I don't like coach's charging onto the field from the coach's box or bench, so he would have been on a super short leash.

emtp · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 02, 2008, 11:20pm

Coach was probably more upset about sending his runner to 3rd, didn't look like he has much speed

RPatrino · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 03, 2008, 02:57pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas

Watch the video again. He didn't charge onto the field. He walked onto it with a couple of steps. Not even close to charging.

Maybe the 3b coach wasn't 'charging'. He was however entering the field of play and leaving his coaching box to argue a call, no? I don't know about Kansas, but that's frowned upon in my area, at least at the high school level.

SanDiegoSteve · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 03, 2008, 03:55pm

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Originally Posted by RPatrino

Maybe the 3b coach wasn't 'charging'. He was however entering the field of play and leaving his coaching box to argue a call, no? I don't know about Kansas, but that's frowned upon in my area, at least at the high school level.

Frowned upon yes. Ejectable, no.

RPatrino · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 03, 2008, 05:21pm

Agreed. In FED the act of leaving the coaching box to argue a call is not by itself 'ejectable'. If the coach, in my judgement, exhibits behavior inconsistant with the spirit of fair play, he is subject to warning or ejection.

Here is an interesting situation for NCAA guys. NCAA rule 3-2 says ' no assitant coach may leave their position anywhere to to appeal an umpires decision'. May the Head coach? Appeal in this case means argue?

Welpe · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Aug 04, 2008, 12:58am

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Originally Posted by msavakinas

If I dumped a coach in a college game JUST because he left his position to argue with me I would probably be done with that assignor.

Not to speak for Tim, but it seems to me that he referring to a game below the collegiate level.

Rich · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Aug 04, 2008, 03:42am

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Originally Posted by msavakinas

Get real. It's part of the game. If you frown on a coach because he leaves his box to come ask you a question about a play that is ridiculous. Coaches have a job to do. Sure it's a little delay in the game but it's not that big of a deal.

If I dumped a coach in a college game JUST because he left his position to argue with me I would probably be done with that assignor.

A HEAD coach, sure. An assistant is going to get run pretty quickly if he does anything but tell the BR to turn left. And the head guys know that.

RPatrino · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:13am

I have no problem discussing a call with a head coach, ever. If the HC asks for time and approaches me in a calm manner we can discuss almost anything. The coach in this clip didn't have far to go because the umpire was standing there. Absent a request for time to discuss the play, I would have been hightailing it to A, so the coach would have to follow me across the diamond to talk.

Just curious, how do you address a HC who is yelling from the bench at you?