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Originally Posted by msavakinas
Marty is the man... lol And he is right here. It's just an observation.
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Spoken like a loyal fan;)
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Originally Posted by msavakinas
Umm the independent source might be that umpire fantasy league site you referred to a couple weeks ago?? Not exactly credible... They also said that Andy Fletcher kicked the call where he dumped Sciosca a couple weeks ago. Not the case sir.
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Here is the quotation of the story, so what part are you saying isn't the case?
HP Umpire Andy Fletcher ejected Angels Manager Mike Scioscia for arguing a foul ball call in the top of the 5th inning of the Angels-Rangers game. With one out and none on, Angels second baseman Howie Kendrick took a 1-2 fastball inside, the pitch deflecting off to the side of home plate. Fletcher called the pitch a foul ball, while Kendrick held his right elbow, claiming that the pitch hit him. Scioscia came out to argue, and after a discussion with Fletcher, returned to the dugout. After the next pitch, a foul ball, Fletcher turned to the Angels dugout and ejected Scioscia. Replays show that the pitch clearly hit Kendrick on the right elbow, the call was incorrect.
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Originally Posted by msavakinas
He should have balked the Brewers pitcher in his first ejection. Brendan Harris stepped out and the Brewers pitcher balked because of it. It should have been no pitch because a batter cannot cause the pitcher to balk. Instead he rang up Brendan Harris and ended up ejecting Gardenhire.
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I remember seeing this play on Sports Center. Gardernhire was ejected for arguing balls and strikes. There was no balk on the play. Harris stepped out without being granted Time, so the pitch was called by location. Here is what happened on the play
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HP Umpire Brian Runge ejected Twins Manager Ron Gardenhire for arguing a called third strike in the top of the 8th inning of the Twins-Brewers game. With none out and none on, Twins shortstop Brendan Harris was called out on three strikes on an 0-2 fastball from Brewers pitcher Guillermo Mota. Harris had tried to call timeout before the pitch but was not granted time by Runge. Major League Baseball recently sent a point of emphasis to all umpires regarding the pace of the game; one of these points discourages the granting of time to a batter asking for it when the pitcher has already started his motion. Replays show that Mota had already begun his motion when Harris asked for time and the pitch was located over the heart of the plate, the call was correct.
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Originally Posted by msavakinas
The second time the pitch was a strike, but he should not have stepped out like he did in front of Beltran. He should've said something with his mask on or went out and dusted off the plate and said something under his breath, just like Beltran was doing to him. Now if Beltran said enough to get tossed with his head down, he should've tossed him right away. He also bumped into Manuel... if they can't do it why can we?? And he paid his price for it with a night off and got paid for it.
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Do you have documentation that says he got paid? That doesn't seem fair.
So what, he bumped Manuel? How many times have coaches bumped you? Well, when you've umpired for awhile longer you can answer that. The answer is that it happens. Arguments get heated. People touch. Oooooh, a bump...let's cry about it. It's not like he hauled off and punched him, come on. Haven't you seen video of the "pine tar" incident with George Brett. Look at all the bumping and wrestling that went on between Brett and the umpires. And on top of that, Runge apologized to Manuel for the bump. That still doesn't make coming out to argue balls and strikes right, nor does it make the bumping right. Manuel should have been ran long before any bumping could have occurred.
And Beltran was not talking "under his breath." What a crock! He turned his head and was jawing with Runge and putting on a show of disrespect. If he had kept his head down and truly spoken under his breath, nobody would have even known he was arguing, and that might have been the end of it. Runge got tired of the mouthiness and had a little talk with the guy while cleaning the plate. Why should he keep his mask on? I always remove my mask to clean the plate, why should anyone else do differently. When you keep your mask on, it dangles when you bend over. It only makes sense to remove it when cleaning the plate. And then, the discussion was over, and everything would have been okay, but Runge stands up from brushing the plate, and Manuel is right there in his face, where he doesn't belong. Where did he belong? Why, back in the dugout, that's where.
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There it is. He screwed the pooch both times when he did the tossing.
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Apparently not. Only problem was in the way he handled the Mets situation. Too lenient and wanted to argue way too much. He should have just dumped them.:cool:
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Originally Posted by msavakinas
Umpires miss calls. The point is he is at that level to get them right and shouldn't miss a call like the one in tigers game. He is supposed to be the example for the rest of us to learn from. :confused:
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When I worked with him, I was the seasoned veteran and he was the raw rookie! He should have learned from me.:cool: :eek: