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Rcichon Tue Jul 15, 2008 01:17pm

Hey...
 
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Originally Posted by PeteBooth
How about a 44 Magnum That way we can FINALLY say to a Parent or Coach

MAKE MY DAY

Pete Booth

Isn't that why some wear two ballbags?
;)

JFlores Tue Jul 15, 2008 04:05pm

Concealed License Permit and gun in the glove compartment. I will protect myself, no way someone is body slamming me. Sorry just wont happen.

Adam Tue Jul 15, 2008 04:28pm

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Originally Posted by JFlores
Concealed License Permit and gun in the glove compartment. I will protect myself, no way someone is body slamming me. Sorry just wont happen.

A gun in your glove box isn't going to stop Daddy from body slamming you or your partner.

BigUmp56 Tue Jul 15, 2008 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
A gun in your glove box isn't going to stop Daddy from body slamming you or your partner.

No, but a quick hook to his jaw might work wonders!


Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Jul 15, 2008 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by JFlores
Concealed License Permit and gun in the glove compartment. I will protect myself, no way someone is body slamming me. Sorry just wont happen.

I remember on one occasion a certain partner who shall remain nameless and I were getting harrassed by a very angry fan after a varsity game. He followed us to our vehicles and when we got to my partner's SUV, my partner opened up the back and reached into his bag and pulled out a .357 magnum and said one word to the fan:

Disappear!

He did.

A little less talk and a lot more action, please.:)

BigTex Tue Jul 15, 2008 09:37pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I remember on one occasion a certain partner who shall remain nameless and I were getting harrassed by a very angry fan after a varsity game. He followed us to our vehicles and when we got to my partner's SUV, my partner opened up the back and reached into his bag and pulled out a .357 magnum and said one word to the fan:

Disappear!

He did.

A little less talk and a lot more action, please.:)


Around here, you go to jail for that. Harassment is not a cause for deadly force.

socalblue1 Tue Jul 15, 2008 09:49pm

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Originally Posted by BigTex
Around here, you go to jail for that. Harassment is not a cause for deadly force.

BS on that! Following me to my car is an overt and active threat, period. Does it justify displaying or pointing a weapon? - HTBT.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:09pm

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Originally Posted by BigTex
Around here, you go to jail for that. Harassment is not a cause for deadly force.

He didn't point it, he just pulled it out of his bag.

And since when do they jail people for handguns in Texas? I lived there 10 years and knew few people who weren't packing 24/7. Friggin' gun capital of the United States.

socalblue1 Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:34pm

Steve,

Displaying a weapon in a public place can be construed as brandishing (Showing a weapon in an attempt to threaten), a crime in every state.

Steven Tyler Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
He didn't point it, he just pulled it out of his bag.

And since when do they jail people for handguns in Texas? I lived there 10 years and knew few people who weren't packing 24/7. Friggin' gun capital of the United States.

It is also against the law to bring a weapon on school property, whether he digs it out of his bag or not. Gun permit or no gun permit.

LMan Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:19pm

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Originally Posted by socalblue1
Steve,

Displaying a weapon in a public place can be construed as brandishing (Showing a weapon in an attempt to threaten), a crime in every state.


Such a DPRKalifornia mindset is typical. In some states you are permitted to defend yourself, if you show that you were reasonably threatened.

Now, in this case, if the potential assailant was empty-handed, I would have de-escalated a dangerous situation and merely pulled out an axe handle. ;)

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:25am

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
It is also against the law to bring a weapon on school property, whether he digs it out of his bag or not. Gun permit or no gun permit.

So are a lot of things. I never said what he did was legal, did I? I still liked the result.

I was brought up with many guns in the house, and to believe that gun control meant using two hands.

ozzy6900 Wed Jul 16, 2008 06:13am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
He didn't point it, he just pulled it out of his bag.

And since when do they jail people for handguns in Texas? I lived there 10 years and knew few people who weren't packing 24/7. Friggin' gun capital of the United States.

Steve, this is real bad advice as this can be a certain jail sentence in some States. Here in CT, even if you have a State permit to carry a concealed weapon, you cannot use it to threaten someone.

Let's say that you are having a heated discussion with me (here in CT). I am wearing a jacket and in the course of the discussion, I slide my hands so that my jacket opens and rest my hands on my hips. My right hand naturally rests on the butt of my revolver as we continue to "discuss" the issue. I have just threatened you with my weapon, even though I never drew it and even though it was a perfectly natural action! A friend of mine spent 3 days in lockup and received a 90 day suspended sentence for doing just this. I was present for the arrest and was present for the hearing. The judge explained that my friend "threatened" the other party by simply resting his hand on the butt of the .38 and it was witnessed by others at the drinking establishment. The law here says that this constituted pulling the weapon and up here (as in many other places) if you pull your weapon, you had better use it!

Sounds stupid but in different States, the laws for weapons can very tremendously. That incident was a lesson for me in that it doesn't matter if you are legal (having a permit) or not, the law is not on your side at all. That is unless you are in Texas and witness your neighbor's house being robbed and you have 911 on the line while you blow the perpetrators away with a 12 gauge! Heh, heh, heh!

greymule Wed Jul 16, 2008 08:47am

It is also against the law to bring a weapon onto school property

. . . which has had made schools prime targets for people intent on committing mayhem.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:24am

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
Steve, this is real bad advice as this can be a certain jail sentence in some States.

I wasn't giving it as advice. I was merely recalling what happened once upon a time, many, many years ago. I was not condoning what he did, but it did take immediate care of the problem. Should everyone start carrying guns to the ballyard? NO!!!!


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