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canadaump6 Wed Jul 02, 2008 08:40pm

Umpiring Vid
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/umpire1111

I have finally got some real game footage of me umpiring. It's a bush league level of ball but it was the only time I was able to get someone to videotape me. Comments are always appreciated. I will try and get some footage of me doing bases and/or calling a better level of ball eventually.

rei Wed Jul 02, 2008 09:21pm

You need to learn how to take your mask off properly!

MajorDave Wed Jul 02, 2008 09:27pm

Commentary on your Youtube vids
 
1. Stance is fine. Good balance, head height is high enough. timing looks good. a little stiff when coming set but nothing wrong with that so long as you are set before the pitch is released. Cannot tell but your timing looks like you are seeing the ball all the way to the mitt. Good pointing the ball back in play after the foul ball.

2. Why do you take mask off with both hands? Nothing wrong with it but it looks awkward to me. Do you have the mask straps loose enough to allow mask to pull out from chin and lift off your head with left hand only and still keep you hat on your head? Is your hat a four, six or eight seam hat? It doesn't matter but it will definitely be harder to remove mask with one hand over an eight stitch hat. Attach the side straps to the ear protector loops that stick out instead of inside. It will assist in removal.

3. I know a lot of umpires point on strikes. I still have not decided which I like-the point or the hammer but I do know that in two-man crews it is best to keep your eyes on the field of play instead of looking at your point when calling strikes, especially with runners on the bases.

4. It looked like you were having to search for strikes with that pitcher. I have had some games like that but fortunately not lately.

You are obviously young in age but committed to becoming better. I still have not had anyone video tape my work yet. My wife will not come to my games for fear of fighting with some of the loud mouth moms. I am going to Tony Thompson's International Umpires camp in October and they video tape there. Keep working hard and trying to get better every day. Do you read rules books and rules commentary such as The BRD and Jaksa/Roder? I found that once I really knew the rules the mechanics came easier. I wasn't trying to think so much. Also work as many games as you can and stick to good mechanics no matter how bad the baseball is.

bobbybanaduck Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:23pm

first...do you want what i have for you? second, if you want it, do you want it publicly or via PMs? i ask the second part because i'm very straighforward. it's to make you better, but it can come off as harsh sometimes. if you want it and you'd rather have it privately that's up to you.

jkumpire Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:44pm

Good Job!
 
I am glad you have the guts to let us see you work some ball. I hope you can get some better games taped so we can see what you have in higher level games.

I'll pass along comments later...

RPatrino Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:04am

Canada, I applaud your courage to post video of yourself working a game. I hope you are serious about wanting honest constructive feedback. So, here goes.

You are properly attired,apart from the grey ball bag (only partially kidding). I have a pet peeve about clean shoes and your plate shoes look very good!! Ball/Strike signalling looks ok. It is very hard to evaluate how you track pitches from the angle you shot the video, but your head is very still, another good point.

I am not sold on your stance. It looks too high and too far away from the catcher for a classic heel/toe stance. You need to get lower and closer to the catcher, as I'm not sure you can call the low strike from where you are. From where you are lined up, depth wise, you could very easily convert to the GD and be properly aligned...hint, hint.

Other than that one upgrade, keep plugging away, you will do just fine!!

MrUmpire Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:57am

Your stance is high, rigid and too much over the catcher.

There are three elements to getting the correct head height....width of stance, drop down and foward lean. You have zero forward lean.

At times your right foot is so far to the right of the catcher's outside foot you are not lined up properly in the slot.

jicecone Thu Jul 03, 2008 09:46am

Generally you looked good, although I agree a little stiff looking. But at least your squared up with the pitch which is tough to get some people to do. Relax a little and maybe hands on your thighs would help.

I did not hear you say "ball" once. I have been taught to call each pitch.

Keep up the good work.

canadaump6 Thu Jul 03, 2008 01:29pm

Thanks as always for the comments guys. I will work on getting the head height lower and being more relaxed when dropping into my stance. Regarding the lack of back tilt, I was always under the impression that you wanted your upper body to have a more or less 90 degree angle to the ground, because that helps set your eyes in the same place. I will try and work in some back tilt into my stance.

I will be honest and say that I haven't been doing the heel-toe stance as taught at the pro schools. I started doing it this year, but it was uncomfortable and I just wasn't feeling fluid back there. I quickly went back to the heel-instep which feels a lot more natural, but maybe it's time to try heel-toe again.

bobbybanaduck Thu Jul 03, 2008 02:58pm

#1, get those 2 clowns inside the dugout. #2, now i want funnel cakes. thanks a lot.

bobbybanaduck Thu Jul 03, 2008 02:58pm

i should have kept watching. 3 clowns.

jicecone Thu Jul 03, 2008 08:52pm

I think the three amigos left to go finish off the Funnel cakes. But then again it looks like they didn't leave many the first visit.

I for one, am not to keen on putting my hands on the catcher but, if it works for you (and it does), ok.

DG Thu Jul 03, 2008 08:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman
I have been know to stir things up on the site from time to time... So here's mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_e3b3234c.jpg

1) I never touch the catcher, can't because I'm not that close. 2) I have not seen anyone turn to the right to hammer, pointers turn to the right to point. 3) I always use left hand to remove mask. 4 ) I just call 'em, I don't explain 'em. 5) What was that last call, a right fist straight out?

umpduck11 Thu Jul 03, 2008 08:58pm

Canada, it's hard to tell from the angle of the video, but are you truly in the slot ? It looks as if you might be more squared behind the catcher. Also, around here, you'd get dinged on an evaluation for throwing a ball back to F1,
but when in Rome.....

Lawrence.Dorsey Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG
2) I have not seen anyone turn to the right to hammer, pointers turn to the right to point.

I just happened to turn on the Braves/Phils game after watching Chris' video earlier this evening. Doug Eddings was using the same hammer to the right strike mechanic. Que casualidad.....

Lawrence

BigUmp56 Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey
I just happened to turn on the Braves/Phils game after watching Chris' video earlier this evening. Doug Eddings was using the same hammer to the right strike mechanic. Que casualidad.....

Lawrence

Paul Emmel was using the same mechanic during the Cubs/Giants game today also.


Tim.

ozzy6900 Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman
I have been know to stir things up on the site from time to time... So here's mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_e3b3234c.jpg

Why oh why do Rats have to be on the field? You have a perfectly good dugout so why are their fat a$$es up on the field? If they only knew how stupid they look!

I agree with not touching the catcher. I don't mind if an umpire uses his arm to gauge the distance but that's it. I think the last signal was obstruction?

Tim C Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:43pm

Hmm,
 
Chris has been on these boards as long as I can remember. He has constantly improved as an umpire.

He did quite well at Evans this year.

I am not sure which is the most overrated issue in umpiring:

1) Taking off you mask with the left hand, or

2) An umpire that intentionally touches a catcher to confirm position.

Of course working the "Davis Lock Box" I can't even reach the catcher.

And, of course, because I do it to - - I am very happy to see Chris call "Ball Out" as I identify close pitches by location.

Regards,

canadaump6 Fri Jul 04, 2008 03:49pm

I had another game yesterday at this level. Worked on getting lower and bending at the back a bit more. Things felt about the same- I may have gotten a bit better view of the low pitches. Of course by the end of the game I didn't have a clue what my strike zone was. The catchers were going inside, outside, up, down, forcing me to move into and then out of the slot.

ozzy6900 Fri Jul 04, 2008 06:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
I had another game yesterday at this level. Worked on getting lower and bending at the back a bit more. Things felt about the same- I may have gotten a bit better view of the low pitches. Of course by the end of the game I didn't have a clue what my strike zone was. The catchers were going inside, outside, up, down, forcing me to move into and then out of the slot.

Keep practicing being relaxed, even when getting set. It will help you carry through those long games. Unfortunately, working this level will not improve your zone. That only improves with quality pitching and quality catchers. How old are these kids anyway?

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jul 04, 2008 07:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Paul Emmel was using the same mechanic during the Cubs/Giants game today also.


Tim.

Also, I have seen Tim Tschida hammer to the side too, while pirouetting on his right leg, ala a flamingo.

DG Fri Jul 04, 2008 08:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman
Yah.... me too. Maybe you were watchin the wrong video??

It was apparently an illusion. At 2:12 it appeared to be your right hand. After zooming in it appears your right hand went up but was left hand that removed the mask.

canadaump6 Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:58pm

Quote:

Keep practicing being relaxed, even when getting set. It will help you carry through those long games. Unfortunately, working this level will not improve your zone. That only improves with quality pitching and quality catchers. How old are these kids anyway?
14 and 15 I believe, but as you can probably tell they are VERY weak for their age.

Regarding taking the mask off, should I pull it off using the straps behind, or should I grab it from the front and pull it off that way?

bob jenkins Sat Jul 05, 2008 07:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
14 and 15 I believe, but as you can probably tell they are VERY weak for their age.

Regarding taking the mask off, should I pull it off using the straps behind, or should I grab it from the front and pull it off that way?

Grasp the mask at the bottom pad. Pivot the bottom of the mask away from you face. The top of the mask will still be at your forehead. Lift the mask straight up.

Keep the straps loose and above the bottom of the hat.

bossman72 Tue Jul 08, 2008 06:22pm

i can't play canada's video for some reason... did you take it off?


chris... i would also be slapping that catcher around for pulling pitches on you.


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