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David B Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:52am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
It's bad umpiring. But I will never understand a coach wanting to go to these lengths on a play he knows the umpires got right. And a coach doing this is simply going to get ejected a lot quicker at the levels I work.

I was also wondering the same. Either the coach had a beef about something else or he and the umpire at first have a "history" and this just was overflow.

Surely, U1 should have seen the bobble, don't know what he was watching, but for the coach to go so overboard with this one umpire - something is unusual.

Notice, he said nothing to the PU who actually made the call on the overturn.


Thanks
David

aceholleran Sat Jun 21, 2008 01:45pm

As a New Englander, it was nice to hear the announcer (bad as he was) say, "The bawl's hit to shawtstup."

Ace

BigUmp56 Sat Jun 21, 2008 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by aceholleran
As a New Englander, it was nice to hear the announcer (bad as he was) say, "The bawl's hit to shawtstup."

Ace

And I love hearing an official being called an "umpiah."


Tim.

canadaump6 Sat Jun 21, 2008 06:30pm

My point is that Hobson didn't have a right to argue for so long just because U1 changed his call. I don't see a reversed call as a good reason to argue for so long and so vehemently. It looked to me like the "coach" was just out there to be a problem.

bobbybanaduck Sun Jun 22, 2008 01:04am

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Originally Posted by tiger49
This was the first game of the series. U3 is always the local guy in the first game.

you, sir, are incorrect. the PU is the local in the video. the CanAm league full time guys stay in rotation throughout the season. wherever the rotation is at when they arrive in town dictates where the local guy works that night.

tiger49 Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:05am

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
you, sir, are incorrect. the PU is the local in the video. the CanAm league full time guys stay in rotation throughout the season. wherever the rotation is at when they arrive in town dictates where the local guy works that night.

Thanks, I was told otherwise. I knew they rotated. I thought U3 to start was always the local guy.

mbyron Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:51am

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
you, sir, are incorrect. the PU is the local in the video. the CanAm league full time guys stay in rotation throughout the season. wherever the rotation is at when they arrive in town dictates where the local guy works that night.

The PU in the video does not have the body type of a recent PBUC grad.

MrUmpire Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
The PU in the video does not have the body type of a recent PBUC grad.

Who said anything about PBUC Grads? These are most likely proschool grads. They come in all shapes, sizes and ages.

bobbybanaduck Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:06pm

the PU was not an attendee of either school (at least not recently)

mbyron Mon Jun 23, 2008 06:57am

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire
Who said anything about PBUC Grads?

I did. :p

CO ump Mon Jun 23, 2008 03:45pm

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Originally Posted by David B
Surely, U1 should have seen the bobble, don't know what he was watching, but for the coach to go so overboard with this one umpire - something is unusual.

It's possible that U2s perspective was a bobble on the exchange.
Maybe F3s habit is to flip the ball from his glove after the out and U2 saw it that way.

TussAgee11 Mon Jun 23, 2008 07:26pm

The real problem is U3 putting his foot on that base.

U1 made a gross miss, but fixed it. Manager blew up, it happens.

But why would U3 step on that base and not let the manager get to it. If anything, let him cause a good ruckus... his suspension will be longer and he'll look like more of an idiot... hence legitimizing the EJ to begin with.

CO ump Mon Jun 23, 2008 09:09pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
The real problem is U3 putting his foot on that base.

U1 made a gross miss, but fixed it. Manager blew up, it happens.

But why would U3 step on that base and not let the manager get to it. If anything, let him cause a good ruckus... his suspension will be longer and he'll look like more of an idiot... hence legitimizing the EJ to begin with.

I'm sure you're not saying the ejection wasn't legitimate prior to the 'base stealing' episode, but that's what it sounds like.

BigUmp56 Mon Jun 23, 2008 09:36pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11

But why would U3 step on that base and not let the manager get to it. If anything, let him cause a good ruckus... his suspension will be longer and he'll look like more of an idiot... hence legitimizing the EJ to begin with.

Must be a pro thing because I'm not going to allow an out of control coach to pull up a bag in a game I'm working if I have the opportunity to stop him. And he won't be pushing me off of a bag without a fight..............


Tim.

TussAgee11 Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:08pm

So you're going to welcome a physical confrontation with a coach?

What did you think was going to happen after coach reached down for the base and then U3 put his foot on top of it? How was this going to end peacefully at that point?

Granted, coach was a lunatic... but don't try to physically stop him from doing something. Then he's going to turn physical on YOU.


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