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chuckfan1 Fri Jun 20, 2008 08:29am

Balk on this??
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=snfh2RZ9wJ8

Looks ok. Usually when a RH tries this, the offense cries balk. I think its just a case of a move not seen as much as when a leftie does it. So, the offense thinks it must be a balk.

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 09:10am

I have a balk for simulating a delivery and not throwing a pitch. Also, it looks like his free foot went behind the back edge of the rubber. I think I'd balk him for that too. Double balk - 2 bases.

jdmara Fri Jun 20, 2008 09:35am

Have to be there to call that one. There are too many questions to make a definitive call.

-Josh

BigUmp56 Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:15am

Balkaroonie..............


Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock
I have a balk for simulating a delivery and not throwing a pitch. Also, it looks like his free foot went behind the back edge of the rubber. I think I'd balk him for that too. Double balk - 2 bases.

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:D

aceholleran Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock
I have a balk for simulating a delivery and not throwing a pitch. Also, it looks like his free foot went behind the back edge of the rubber. I think I'd balk him for that too. Double balk - 2 bases.

My hat's off to Dash for not saying "stimulating"!

Ace

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceholleran
My hat's off to Dash for not saying "stimulating"!

Ace

You should'nt of went their!

aceholleran Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock
You should'nt of went their!

Irregardless, I feel nauseous and need to lay down for awhile. I have only one criteria in grammer, and it has an asterik next to it!

This is just between you and I.:D

ace

RPatrino Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:44am

"That's a bbbbbbbb...BALK"

Rich Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock
I have a balk for simulating a delivery and not throwing a pitch. Also, it looks like his free foot went behind the back edge of the rubber. I think I'd balk him for that too. Double balk - 2 bases.

Huh? If you put a mirror on this, it would simply be a good LH move to first base. The foot didn't come back behind the rubber (well, all I'm saying is that if we have a 2 man crew this isn't going to be called even if it might have been behind) and the step looks to be more to third than the plate, so it's legal.

jdmara Fri Jun 20, 2008 02:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Huh? If you put a mirror on this, it would simply be a good LH move to first base. The foot didn't come back behind the rubber (well, all I'm saying is that if we have a 2 man crew this isn't going to be called even if it might have been behind) and the step looks to be more to third than the plate, so it's legal.

I am going to agree with you here. If his foot didn't come back behind hit knee....I would let it go. But the video just isn't proof enough for me to say much. HTBT

-Josh

BigUmp56 Fri Jun 20, 2008 03:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Huh? If you put a mirror on this, it would simply be a good LH move to first base. The foot didn't come back behind the rubber (well, all I'm saying is that if we have a 2 man crew this isn't going to be called even if it might have been behind) and the step looks to be more to third than the plate, so it's legal.

We must be seeing something different, Rich. It sure looks to me like he rotated his free foot toward home first. I don't care where he landed the step.


Tim.

socalblue1 Fri Jun 20, 2008 07:00pm

balk all the way. F1 started toward HP.

bossman72 Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:27am

maybe it's the quality of the video, or maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing a balk (I'm not saying you guys are wrong, I'm just saying I'm not seeing it). the 45 step looks... ok. can't tell from the angle about kicking the foot behind the rubber. i don't see any movements toward home.

once again, the film is a little blurry so i may be missing something

David B Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Huh? If you put a mirror on this, it would simply be a good LH move to first base. The foot didn't come back behind the rubber (well, all I'm saying is that if we have a 2 man crew this isn't going to be called even if it might have been behind) and the step looks to be more to third than the plate, so it's legal.

That's what I see also. Basically he kicks his leg which makes it look unusual, but his knee doesn't move toward home at all.

With two man never going to call it, and even if I'm U3, it looks like he stepped right toward third.

From looking at part 2, the umpires must have not done a very good job explaining it to the coach, but that's a game management thread.

Thanks
David


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