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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 04:39pm
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Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.
Steve,

I usually agree with you, but, I completely disagree with you on this one.

An umpire on the field without a hat, IMO, looks terrible. And the hat under the HSM doesn't affect it's fit any more than the hat affects the way the mask fits.

And I do wear a regular mask. I like the HSM, but I choose to wear the mask anytime it is warm.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 06:09pm
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Steve,

And the hat under the HSM doesn't affect it's fit any more than the hat affects the way the mask fits.
Absolutely, positively untrue.

Wearing a hat with my HSM makes it sit up higher which puts one of the bars right in my line of vision. It also doesn't sit correctly on my chin. My head is 7 1/2 and wearing a hat under my HSM is totally uncomfortable. The metal bit on the top of the hat is also uncomfortable.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 06:21pm
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Holy Shockers Batman, we can't use our Elbeco shirts anymore for umpiring.

Oh well, at least they haven't banned them yet at church or funerals.

By the way, does a heather gray tie or navy blue, look better with it.

Robin, calm down and sit back in the pew, and for heavens sake take off your hat under your mask before they realize were umpires and start saying a special mass for us.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 09:59pm
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Oh well, at least they haven't banned them yet at church or funerals. [QUOTE]

Last year before a mission trip to Haiti I was told I needed a shirt and tie for Sunday services. The only short sleeved shirt I had that I could wear a tie with was the last Elbeco hanging in my closet. Thank God!

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PS I did get asked about that IHSA patch, though...
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 10:35pm
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Absolutely, positively untrue.

Wearing a hat with my HSM makes it sit up higher which puts one of the bars right in my line of vision. It also doesn't sit correctly on my chin. My head is 7 1/2 and wearing a hat under my HSM is totally uncomfortable. The metal bit on the top of the hat is also uncomfortable.
You're not wearing your HSM right then.

I wear a 7 7/8 hat, use the Easton HSM and have had absolutely no trouble with wearing a hat under the HSM. The hat stays put when the mask comes off and it fits fine.

Everything you described tells me you don't have your HSM fitted right.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 12:25am
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You're not wearing your HSM right then.

I wear a 7 7/8 hat, use the Easton HSM and have had absolutely no trouble with wearing a hat under the HSM. The hat stays put when the mask comes off and it fits fine.

Everything you described tells me you don't have your HSM fitted right.

I've had three HSM's and all of them are fitted correctly. They are uncomfortable with the hat. Period. End of story.

The point is your opinion isn't all that matters. Others have feelings on the issue and just because they disagree with yours doesn't make them wrong.

In fact the obvious truth that the HSM is made to be worn WITHOUT a hat probably puts you on the wrong side of the argument.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 01:19am
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I've had three HSM's and all of them are fitted correctly. They are uncomfortable with the hat. Period. End of story.

The point is your opinion isn't all that matters. Others have feelings on the issue and just because they disagree with yours doesn't make them wrong.

In fact the obvious truth that the HSM is made to be worn WITHOUT a hat probably puts you on the wrong side of the argument.
More evidence confirming this opinion--if I were to wear a four-stitch hat underneath my HSM, it would still project further than the mask itself.
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